got some ? about Stanozolol (Winstrol)

[soon_2_be_swoll]

please del this thread.. i should have looked at the sticky notes, for the answers

[soon_2_be_swoll]

no one wants to answer :^(...

well after doing what i should have done i been reading threw old post on winny. aftert doing thisi relised all ideas i heard* or thought, were dead wroung..

i was under the impression winny was the weakest gear u can get with minimal side effects and good for a begginer.. wow im glad i didnt jump the gun even downt he road on this....

witht his being said for the hell of it what is the weakest "if there is" roid possiable , after saying this im kinda kicking my self, im thinking u cant get everything i dont think any gear is good for growth yet no adverse side effects or is there????

also does anyone have links to gear and info on it??

[Belial]

Do some searches on primo.

Honestly, 500mg a week of straight test will give you good gains with minimal sides, if precautions are taken. Look into that a bit. The first post assumed way too much, which is why there were no answers.

Primo, test, and EQ are all relatively "safe" steroids, check them out. Then come back here, once you've searched, with any and all questions.

[soon_2_be_swoll]

Originally posted by Belial
Do some searches on primo.

Honestly, 500mg a week of straight test will give you good gains with minimal sides, if precautions are taken. Look into that a bit. The first post assumed way too much, which is why there were no answers.

Primo, test, and EQ are all relatively "safe" steroids, check them out. Then come back here, once you've searched, with any and all questions.

i feel like such a n00b im used to people comming on car forums i moderate and asking blunt questions like mine....

ok so "primo,test,eq" are roids on there own, why do i see so many variations of test? test 400 etc? is there several diffrent levels of strength or what? just trying to figure this out i know its gonna take time thats why im asking. all help as u know is appreciated

[galileo]

Dude, you're 15. You have a solid 6 years before it should even cross your mind.

[Belial]

Yes, there are different esters, different blends, different concentrations.

The reasons people are loathe to answer basic questions here is because you're basically talking about taking powerful, body altering substances that require proper precautions. So if somebody obviously knows very little, it's better they educate themselves on the basics (which are all over this site), before asking specifics.

And yes, if you're 15, galileo is spot on.

[Saint Patrick]

Agree w/ galileo, you need a strong cycle of chicken and potatoes.

[CB]

you could add some creatine and protein powder to that cycle too!!

[soon_2_be_swoll]

Originally posted by galileo
Dude, you're 15. You have a solid 6 years before it should even cross your mind.

ok first things first i DONT want to take any gear atleast not at this time, i have not seen what my body can do naturally so i want to find my limit of growth & strength N/A before i get on anything.

god forbid anyone read my entire post thanks for all the ur to young comments but..... i want to know about them and i feel if im gonna wait 6 years i want to know everything there is about them from now till them...

whats the least toxic gear on the market from personal experiance or from knowledge anyone?

and one more thing from what ive read "gino" is when u dont take and estergen blockers at the end of ur cycle and u begin to grow breast? u cant work them off either right?

[BCC]

Lol. You may only be 15 now, and you say you're going to wait 6 years. But in all reality, you'll probably hit it up within 2 years if you have a source. I recall about a year ago talking to a friend of mine about gear who's in his early 30's. I specifically remember telling him I would wait until I was atleast 19 or 20. He told me he bet I'd do it within a year. Well he was right, at that time I was 16, and it was only 7 months later that I began to dabble with steroids.

You're definitely moving in the right direction to educate yourself, and you've come to the right place. I've also noticed that you're on the search for "the least toxic," "safest," ect. gear. I think everyone goes on this little search when they first become interested in AAS. When it comes down to it, any gear can be used safely. This is something which will sink in as you educate yourself more and more.

Also, about gyno, if you get it, you're probably not going to get rid of it unless you shell out money for surgery. Once you really familiarize yourself with AAS and post cycle ancillaries, gyno and other side effects will be the least of your worries.

I just thought I'd give you some insight from someone young as well. Good luck with your training and don't stop researching if AAS are something you think you want to do. Also, I definitely recommend you read Severed Ties sticky at the top of the anabolic forum. That will lead you to ask yourself a lot of important questions. Also you have to ask yourself what your goals and aspirations are, and most importantly, be patient.

[soon_2_be_swoll]

Originally posted by BigChaseyChase
Lol. You may only be 15 now, and you say you're going to wait 6 years. But in all reality, you'll probably hit it up within 2 years if you have a source. I recall about a year ago talking to a friend of mine about gear who's in his early 30's. I specifically remember telling him I would wait until I was atleast 19 or 20. He told me he bet I'd do it within a year. Well he was right, at that time I was 16, and it was only 7 months later that I began to dabble with steroids.

You're definitely moving in the right direction to educate yourself, and you've come to the right place. I've also noticed that you're on the search for "the least toxic," "safest," ect. gear. I think everyone goes on this little search when they first become interested in AAS. When it comes down to it, any gear can be used safely. This is something which will sink in as you educate yourself more and more.

Also, about gyno, if you get it, you're probably not going to get rid of it unless you shell out money for surgery. Once you really familiarize yourself with AAS and post cycle ancillaries, gyno and other side effects will be the least of your worries.

I just thought I'd give you some insight from someone young as well. Good luck with your training and don't stop researching if AAS are something you think you want to do. Also, I definitely recommend you read Severed Ties sticky at the top of the anabolic forum. That will lead you to ask yourself a lot of important questions. Also you have to ask yourself what your goals and aspirations are, and most importantly, be patient.

thanks alot for the info, and being 17 ur self i feel uve helped my more so then other people who mocked metuttut ...

i am a newbie and thats why i have asked some bold questions only cause i dont know.....

im just trying to figure this out im sure some of the pros from here learned this stuff just by asking people also...

[BCC]

No one is necessarily trying to mock you. They're all just trying to look out for you and lay down the foundation. How you eat and how you train is going to be more important than gear will ever be. Which kind of leads to another part I left out. Like everyone said, at this point, food is going to do more for you than any steroids will. And I think everyone really just wanted to stress that point to you incase you were at this moment thinking of using (which I am aware you said you weren't.)

Physically, maybe I should have waited until I was older to use anything. But one thing was for sure, my training and diet were set in stone, and had been for a good time. I could make great gains regardless of steroids, and I think that's something which is very important to do first.

[galileo]

First, I read your post. By the time you're technically ready there will likely be a lot of changes to the game anyhow, so I wouldn't be preparing any cycles six years in advance. Plus, as Chase stated, the more you learn at this age the more tempted you will be to go for it.

Second, no one is mocking you. Fifteen is a very fragile age. You are not mature and you are [/i]not[/i] prepared for this type of thing. I remember in high school all of the guys who used steroids ended up with horrible sides (under-educated) and they thought they were tough-**** because they had a little more muscle than the general population. They were stupid and started to lose their gains quickly after. What did they do then? Started up another cycle. It's a terrible thing to even think about at your age, with the current level of development you have attained, and the degree of variance of the effects on young adults. You can tell yourself over and over that you can handle it and that you have more control, but I imagine it is the sort of thing you need to experience to fully grasp.

Be smart and get it out of your mind for a while. If you think it takes six years to prepare for a cycle, you're nuts. Do yourself a favor and start thinking about it again at around 20-21.

[soon_2_be_swoll]

why is it so bad for me to think about this? ive had the chance to buy gear and use it etc, but use it blindly and not know what the consequences would have been, but i didnt. and i am more mature then u can trully see or think, its hard to tell threw a pc.. i didnt mean to seem like a ass for saying people were mocking me, thats why i put the smilies in..

maybe we got off on the wroung start but i would rather learn about stuff like this in advance, then sit home and smoke pot and roll and what not with the other kids my age..

btw, heres a little pic of what i look like about 5months ago ive put more strength and size on since, just so u dont think im a little young kid im rather large for the conditions and my age.

http://www.xmesh.veriotraining.org/N...pics/swoll.jpg

[galileo]

I won't respond to the entire message, but you are way less mature than you could ever imagine. You'll agree once you hit college. The difference in maturity is phenomenal. It is something I can't tell you enough.

I'd focus on girls and food over pot.

[BUFF STUFF]

Listen to Jacko, I mean galileo

[soon_2_be_swoll]

Originally posted by galileo
I won't respond to the entire message, but you are way less mature than you could ever imagine. You'll agree once you hit college. The difference in maturity is phenomenal. It is something I can't tell you enough.

I'd focus on girls and food over pot.

what does maturity have to do with questions. jackass i mean jacko ?

[galileo]

You're just pissed because you think you're quite mature. Funny thing is, we all did when we were your age.

Maturity has a lot to do with everything. It will determine how quickly you succumb to things, how easily persuable you are, and how you react to situations.

It is apparent that you wear your level of maturity on your sleeve based on that last brilliant post.

[soon_2_be_swoll]

im just messing with you man.... calm down

[galileo]

Not uncalm. You just need to respect the advice of people who are quite involved.

[CB]

Hope you don't think I was mocking you. I was just hoping you would realy think about exhausting all other alternatives before doing a cycle. I know that you say that you are just looking for info and doing research on AAS, and not going to actually do a cycle for another few years, but sometimes things change. But if info is what you wan then maybe you should find out all you can about AAS on your own first whether it be through books, magazines or even things on the web. I have never done a cycle myslef yet either but I do have seven years of training under my belt and a ****load of injuries, mistakes, and revelations to go with it. This should be the last place you should go to because what you will find here on these boards is experiences based on peoples trials and errors with AAS. I am a newbie myself to this board and came here to find answers to questions that you can't find in any books, magazines, or even on websites. What these guys all have here is experience...life experience.

Another thing that should be mentioned is that no one will know you and your body better than yourself...regardless of what I or any others may say to you. What works for these guys or myself may not work for you or maybe it will. But to truly know yourself, your body, and what your body's limits are will take time. If you are not considering AAS at this point in time for your body...then you should not be looking into it. Just train as hard as you can and eat to grow. There are a lot of supplements that can help you towards reaching your true untapped potential. Creatine, a good protein powder, and even ECAs can take you a long way. This is all just an opinion though and was not intended to offend you or mock you in anyway. In the end, whatever it is you are looking for, I hope you find it.