I went on a little diet... 78lbs of fat in 4 months!

[WillKuenzel]

Did you get your bodyfat tested prior to losing the weight? If so what was it?

How is your strength now?

And don't you think benching 380 and only dl'ing 405 is a little unproportionate?

[Andre Avigdor]

I did not get it tested prior to my diet... I did not think I would lose as much weight as I did... I wish I had looking back! The only thing I could say is that I was fat I do not have the same strength I had at 255lbs, it's coming back though... slowly. My training was something I like to call 'powerbuilding'... I combined core movements with higher reps. My goal was never to be a competitive lifter

[WillKuenzel]

I was just wondering about how much LBM you lost during that diet. Those calories just seemed a little excessivly low.

[Tryska]

hee hee.

nice wheels!

great transformation as well.

[The_Chicken_Daddy]

I assumed drug use also, not just from the transformation, but i saw the break-out on your chest in the 193lbs photo.

[Andre Avigdor]

The breakout was due to getting waxed for the 1st time in my life... 10 days later no more pimples... you know what happens when you assume things! I am clean... I did a single cycle of D-bol when I was in college, I am 31 years old now and have not touched the stuff since then.

[WillKuenzel]

So what did your workouts look like during this time?

[Andre Avigdor]

Here's what my routine looked like... month 1-2 where at 5 sets of 10 reps all at the same weight... months 3-4 where at 10 sets of 10 reps all at the same weight

Mon & Thurs Chest & Tris

Tues & Fri Back & Bis

Wed Legs

Cardio
month 1 5 days week 1hr
month 2-3 7 days week 1.5hrs (2 X45mins)
Month 4 5 days week 30 mins

[WillKuenzel]

You would do 10 sets for each exercise? I would have thought that a bit of overkill.

What was your rest time inbetween sets like?

[Andre Avigdor]

1 to 2 mins max rest between set... yes my workouts where brutally long! G-d knows what I was thinking at the time?

[JustinASU]

If this diet and lifting style worked for you they hey, awesome and congratz but it seems like its against most things I have been taught.

[AJ_11]

Originally posted by Herc
"cell-tech poster child"

Is actually a correct analysis. As Andre pointed out his transfromation was mainly fat loss. If you look at the progress pics you can see that even before dieting at all, Andree had a lot of muscle "hiding" under fat. Many of the suplement companies use the same principal for less than honest reasons.

Unfortunately, we've been trained by supplement companies to believe that transformations like this are remarkable, but actually represent an old fashoned "extreme" bulk and cut.

Andre's transformation is great and I give him all the props he deserves. We are the ones who need to break out of the cycle of advertising and propganda and keep ourselves from always shouting vitamin "S" and not seeing what is right infromt of our eyes. A big guy who got big through training and diet then got cut through training and diet. It can actually happen, believe it or not - just not as often these days as it used to be.

Bump. I agree.

Nice job.

Do you have any link to that diet?

[Andre Avigdor]

All the diet info is on page one of the thread

[VitalRemains]

Great transformation man!

[Budiak]

I wish I had the dough to buy all those supps.


And a Busa.


But still, amazing progress. I was suspicious that you had a pretty fast metabolism as it was and just ate like a horse in order to keep strength and size up because you looked like one beefy mother.



But, and I dont mean this as an insult, you look WAY older now than you did at 255. You look like you're in your 40s. Also your mother, who was 55, now looks almost 70.

[Andre Avigdor]

"I dont mean this as an insult, you look WAY older now than you did at 255. You look like you're in your 40s."

I am happy with the way I look now, and most importantly I feel MUCH better!!!

[Relentless]

Originally posted by Budiak
But, and I dont mean this as an insult, you look WAY older now than you did at 255. You look like you're in your 40s. Also your mother, who was 55, now looks almost 70.

This from a young punk who hasn't even begun to sniff 30 coming at him in the breeze.

Budiak: Fat hides wrinkles. Silly boy. I noticed this myself on the journey from 235->195

Andre: well done on the cut, mate. You look good. Waxing's a bitch though, ain't it?

[Andre Avigdor]

Thanks for being the voice of reason, Callahan!

I was so hurt by his comments that I was going to try to gain back all that weight so I can 'look good' again

I noticed that you are in Toronto... I moved back to Montreal last year after spending 5 years there. I trained at the following clubs when I was there...
Premiere on Esna Park
Premiere on Kennedy
Extreme in Pickering
Extreme in Richmond Hill

We might have bumped into each other when I was there.... I was the 'good looking' fat guy!

[Relentless]

nope; I haven't lifted at a premier since 1995-96, and that was the club in Etobicoke

[technogeeky]

This post intrigues me.

Once I find out if I am/am not losing what I want to with my diet, I might switch.

[technogeeky]

This would not work very well for someone who isn't already very muscular, correct?

[Andre Avigdor]

Nothing to do with muscles... go back to page 1 of the thread to see my wife who has lost more weight than me and my who is 55 years old and has lost over 50lbs so far...

What's unique about this diet is that what you lose is almost all fat... It worked well for me because I have spent 6 years 'bulking up' I don't know what you look like now, so I can't really predict how 'muscular' you will be if you lose the weight you are trying to do... if that makes any sense !?!

[HahnB]

are you sure this isn't one of those phone calls you get where they 'swear' they aren't selling something

[Andre Avigdor]

The only thing I selling is all my old clothes that don't fit me anymore! Did I say anything that would make you think I am selling something???

[technogeeky]

Does one need to take ALL of those supplements to be successful? Ephedra is out for me. Other than that, are all those laxatives, etc, really necessary? I'm pretty young (19) so keep that in mind.