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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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  1. #1
    Just one last rep!
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    LuvDaPump's New Journal 3/3/04

    This is my first journal of any kind. I plan on making frequent notes mainly regarding resistance training and cardio. I may get into diet if I have time.

    I've been looking at different formats and will try and get something started today or tomorrow.

    I'll try and get pics up tonight. First time posing and taking pics with camera on a time but I'll give it a shot. Kind of embarrasing but what the hell.
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 03-03-2004 at 02:09 PM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    I started a new type of workout Monday 3/1/04 and have cut and pasted some notes I posted on another thread.
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    Did my first workout using this 1 exercise method. Very interesting. I've been doing 3 exercises or so of a body part with 3 or so sets per exercise. Depending on the body part.

    One thing I do like is that you can put everything you have into it as you only have 1 super ****ing hard set after a few warm ups. You can certainly use more weight than if you were doing more working sets. You're not saving anything. The biggest thing obvious to me is that my muscles were not fatigued at all. Overloaded and weak but not trashed as they would be with 10 sets on one body part. Meaning that there was no lactic acid to get through or the immediate pain after a high rep set. Glycogen stores would not have been depleted as with a higher set workout. You really have to work the mind muscle to make sure you get everything out of that one real working set. It takes a lot of determination to do 10 reps, essentially to failure, then pause 15 seconds and move the weight again for maybe 4 reps, then pause, then another 2-3 reps, then really negative the last few reps.

    I work out in the morning about 8am. I noticed that I was not quite as tired the rest of the day.

    In conclusion, I liked the first workout and will give this method my all for at least a month and see how it goes. I will admit though it was very difficult to do this routine without doing extra exercises. I wanted to hit more when I was finished but did not.
    Good luck if you try it.
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    OK.

    I posted last night above. I don't want this to be a journal in this thread but need some opinions.

    I lifted really hard yesterday and feel practically nothing today. I know my recovery isn't much beyone normal. I eat pretty well. I would say that tomorrow I could do the same workout again. I mean I really did my best to go heavy and use every bit of willpower to get through the last reps. I was seeing stars after the last reps. I feel no soreness in my triceps from skull crushers. No soreness from the back exercises or chest, just slight weakness. I just don't at all feel like I worked out yesterday. I can't believe that I can grow at this rate.

    Should I have done higher reps on the working set?
    Chest Flex, machine press 3 warms 205x10x4x2
    Shoulder lat raises db 2 warms 25x8x5x2
    Tri skull crushers 2 warms 80x12x4x3
    lat front pulldown 2 warms 140x8x4x4
    back bo row machine 2 warms 130x12x5x2

    Maybe more negative emphasis. I did a little. Should I do slow negatives during the working set or just the last few reps. I did 2 sec positive, 4sec neg.

    Typically I would have done as most. 2-4 exercises for those bodyparts with 1 warmup and 3 working sets. Typical weider stuff. Seems to have worked but it's easy to fatigue and overtrain.

    Thanks for any suggestions.

    Tomorrow is biceps, forearms calves hams quads. Any recommendations?
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    I got a reply from Bizatch and it really helped.
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    posted 3/2/05
    Biz, Thanks for the info.
    I use a bench press machine because it is difficult to get a spotter. Flex makes a cool machine with individual handles and goes from wider grip by the shoulders then the handles come closer together at the peak of the movment. I'm going to try and get a spotter and can move to a smith or regular bench. I have incline as my second exercise in the week.

    I have military presses and the second exercise.
    What other shoulder exercise might you recommend?

    Lat front is a cable lat pulldown machine. I'll move to pullups.

    I guess I needed some reinforcment on the importance of explosiveness and more negatives and static on the working set.

    I think I've got the stretching right.

    Good info.
    Thanks. I'm going to start a lifting journal this week here.
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 03-03-2004 at 01:59 PM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Here are the pics I just took. My excuse is I am very sore from this mornings workout. Can't even flex my bi's.

    Any comments or critiques welcome.

    Thanks!
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    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    More pics. Honest criticism only please.
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    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Monday 3/1/04
    Starting doggcrapp style workout. 1 exercise per part. 2-4 warm up sets. High intensity working set with rest/pause, negatives, and static hold. Extreme stretching.

    First impressions in previous post.
    Already have changed some thing around.

    Chest machine press 90x12 90x12 135x10 205x10x4x1 neg
    shoulders db lateral raises 15sx10 20x10 25x8x5 negs change to arnold presses
    triceps skull crushers 60x10 60x10 60x10 80x12x4x2 negs with spot
    backw lat pulldown wg 110x10 110x10 140x8x4x4 negs
    backt cable row wg 100x10 100x9 130 12x2 killer need to catch back up

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Tuesday 3/2/04

    Cardio HIIT using upright cycle
    5warm
    10 min of 10on 15off intervals
    5 cool

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Wed. 4/3/04

    Learned more about this type of workout. More emphasis on the negatives and pause.
    More extreme stretching. ***k that hurt but I don't feel nearly as tight later in the day.

    biceps preacher curls ezbar db25x10 db25x10 ez75x8 ez 85x10x5x3x2 negs ouch
    Quads smith squat 100x12 100x12 120x10 170x12x4x2 first time doing take easy
    Hams sldl 75x10 75x10 95x15 105x15x5x4 frist time this many reps step up next time
    forearms seated fa curls
    calves standing pin machine 250x12 345x15 420x12 450x7x2 weak glutes and hams hindered stability Do calves on non leg days.

    This will be interesting.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Thursday 3/4/04
    scales 212 before

    Cardio HIIT using eliptical
    5warm on treadmill
    10 min of 10on 15off intervals
    5cool on treadmill
    10 minute up hillwalk 3.6mph
    5 min cool

    Hams and glutes really hurt today. It's going to take awhile to get the weight up on sldl but I can really tell it is an effective exercise.
    Quads a little sore from squats and extreme stretching.
    Calves a little sore on outside gastro.

    Biceps are not weak or hurting at all.
    Back and chest 100%.

    Tomorrow same bp as monday but different exercises.
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 03-05-2004 at 01:12 PM.

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    Friday 3/5/04
    really need to find training partner, just don't feel comfortable doing negs and statics overhead using freeweights without a spotter.

    Chest Incline machine 45x10 90x8 90x8 115x8x4x2 killer static 2-3 times
    shoulders front smith presses 50x10 50x10 90x10x6x4x2 negs static
    Triceps cable press downs 100x10 100x10 130x10 180x12x6x3x2 statics
    backw seated cable lats indiv. 90x10 90x10 130x10x6x4 150x2 statics
    backt cable row narrow 105x10 105x10 165x8x6x3

    ext stretch on triceps bh head. f***ing pumped after the stretch. strange

    hams and gluts still really sore. will be ok for monday.
    plan on doing cardio 1 of 2 days this weekend. out of town.
    scales say 215 they suck. I think someone adjusts them wrong.
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 03-05-2004 at 01:12 PM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Saturday 3/6/04

    Out of town. Walked briskly for 40 minutes. Not a hill in sight.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Sunday 3/7/04

    Hooked up twice today. That's enough

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Monday 3/8/04

    Beautiful day.

    Biceps Wide Grip BB 45x10 65x10 65x10 95x10x5x3x2 95x3 Negs and extreme stretching Nice pump and descent recovery so far today.
    Traps raw DB's 60x12 70x12 80x9 90x10x6x4x3 Did negs and statics.
    Also 100's static grip work.

    Rode bike 45 minutes outside. Will do hams, glutes and quads tomorrow.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    F*** that I've got to mucht do.. I don't have time to duplicate all this stuff. Will post workout and UD2 results with 2 month pics.

    Thanks./

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    You've got good size man, start cutting and you will look really good.
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    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    And those pics are from a month ago..Do a cut cycle should look awsume
    I am 5' 10" 200lbs
    4-12-04 MAX
    Chest 42 1/4" Bench-215lbs
    Waist 34" Squats- 250lbs
    Bicept 15 1/4" Curls- 95lb db
    Forearm 12 1/4" Dead lift- 285lbs
    legs 22"
    Calf 15"
    Neck 16 1/2"

    He conforts us every time we have trouble, so when others have trouble, we can confort them. 2 Corinthians 1:4

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    I did a little checking on the chemical heat ingredients. Looks like menthol is one of the most popular. Seems to affect sensation more than anything.

    I'll look into AbSolve and the like when all else has failed.

    Fornero: You're absolutly right. I reread some articals and Lyle's book and agree that the 3-4th day will be the most effective. MTW I've been at between 40-60 grams carbs and 80% of those were wheat and the like. I actually ended up spreading the muscle depletion over the 3 days as tuesday I almost puked in the gym. I didn't have any carb for breakfast and couldn't lift anything after about 30 minutes.

    Looked like this,
    monday: early am cardio, small breakfast, lifted about 1/2 body high reps. Nice pumps.
    Tuesday: no carbs for breakfast to speak of, lifted about 1/4 body and walked a little.
    Wed: Ate 20g carb shredded wheat with protein. Lifted rest of body with nice pump on bi's and did intense cardio for 30 minutes. Felt 100% better today.
    Thursday I plan to do early am cardio fasted then eat descent and low carb and a little afternoon bike ride.
    Friday: wake up early and get some nice carbs and whole protein. Lift hard about 8am. Eat lots all day.
    Sat: Pancakes, eggs and bacon and lift about 10am really heavy low reps and eat lots all day. I plan on tearing it up pretty well sat. AM.
    Sunday rest and eat maint with low gh in pm.
    Do it all over again.

    I appreciate your recomendations and look for any criticism on my plan. I'm posting it in my journal tonight too as it's headed that way.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    wait till u drop that bodyfat gonna look nice man, keep it up

    pz

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    keep up the good work, and good luck on the journal .

    yeah once you drop the bf%, you'll be looking pretty jacked
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    Thanks guys. Yea, I've put on some muscle and lost a bit of fat over the last month or so. I'm going to keep on the UD2 through the middle/end of may. I should be in the 10-12%bf range. I need to take some pics and try and duplicate the poses.

    Today being thursday...walked/ran for 20 minutes upon waking. Ate a bit of breakfast, 2 eggs, some whey, piece of cheese and a piece of plain toast. Then went to the gym with my daughter and played on the weights just to warm up a little. Did 25 minutes of good cardio. Felt good. I think the 15g of carbs the last two mornings has really helped. For lunch I had a piece of plain bread with natural pbutter, cheese, salami, couple of hb eggs and some whey with glutamine. Tonight I'm going out for a huge plate of peal and eat shrimp and some diet coke. whhoooo hooo I know....

    I'm looking forward to tomorrow am. Should be a killer workout. A 5k calorie day yea!!!! It will be very hard to even get 3k for me but I'll try.

    I'm feeling and seeing some real progress with the fat loss. A few pounds I would say. Seems like the skin is a little looser on the ribs if you know what I mean. My calves especially have tightened up. Maybe that' s little bc of water too. Although I've been drinking about the same amount and peeing the same.

    I've mainly been counting carbs but not so much the total calories. I would say I'm doing between 1300 and 1500. The last 4 days. A little dizzy occasionally but I just pretend it's a buzz of habits long past.

    I am a little interested in leanrning more about what happens when you start burning the aminos and get the ammonia smell going. Seems pretty catabolic once you get to that point.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Wow

    Wow, that was a good workout.
    4 days of depletion gone muderf***er. Yea!!! Bring on the bread.

    I stayed under 60 grams of carbs/day monday thru thursday. Wasn't easy but like everything in hindsight it wasn't that hard.

    Friday am,
    This morning I actually ate a whole bowl of frosted mini wheats with skim mild. 40 grams of protein, glutamine and creatine. I figured that I should load up. Had a good workout and better complex lifts than in awhile. Didn't really get a very good pump but this was expected. I'm still getting used to the full body workouts. Didn't do much on shoulders today but will hit them at the front of the workout tomorrow. Energy level dropped quickly after some of the big exercises. I stopped one rep short of failure and did 2 working sets with 8-12 reps on each major group then a few isolation sets.

    I'll tell you what though my bodyfat is definitly reduced from last week. I looked much harder and less smooth than a week ago. Some of it might have been water loss but I have been drinking at least 1.5 gallons/day.

    Changed the music up a little today.
    started off with some Metallica then moved to G&R and into Bush then Rush and Led Zepplin as a cool down..

    I also noticed I sweat a lot more today. Probably because I did chest, back, and legs on the same day. I used to do a split. Also I feel the burst of carbs today has got me on a little buzzz for sure.

    I'm going to update this nutrition below over the next 36 hrs.
    : burger :

    so far friday
    Breakfast
    35gC 11 of that sugar 35gP
    Workout
    60gC 6g suger 35gP creatine, glutamine
    15gC
    lunch blackbean/pork/tortilla/chips/rice/tea
    80gC 10gsugar 20gP estimates
    Snack milk and mixedwheycasine
    19gC 12gsugar 40gP
    Not eating nearly enough carbs today.
    Snack 2 tortillas with pb
    45gC na 5gP
    Snack@3-4pm
    37gC 15gsugar 15gP
    5: left over hamburger from wife last night
    35gC 5gsuger 25gP
    Dinner: ... Lean Steak, pasta salad
    15gC 50gP
    Snack 9pm milk and mrp
    42gC 45gP total so far 383gC 270gP +fat=3050
    snack bread cheese
    25gC 3gP
    Saturday AM pancakes eggs OJ
    80gC 35gP
    duringwo powerade and protein
    23gC 10gP
    Workout PWOShake
    56gC 55gP
    Lunch lean hamburger few ffries
    45gC 26gP
    Snack
    24gC 23gP
    Dinner..ham/cheese.salad hbeggs 1 beer lots of water 658c+fat+447=5.5k
    22gC 25gP
    Snack
    35gC 15gP
    Total for 36 hours from friday 8am to saturday night was::
    715gC 487gP About 90gfatestimate totals about 6kcalories


    Not nearly enough carbs Fri..

    Today Pics too. Last posted pics on 3/3 so we'll see what happened. Been doing ud2 for 1 week and previous 3 weeks doggcrapp man.
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 04-18-2004 at 10:15 AM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    4/14 Pics

    Def more tan. Looking for any comments in differences in these pics. Please be honest. And yesss I know I need to loose the bf. That's why the pics are here I also need lots of work on posing. It's hard to do. I think I'll use a camcorder next time to get immediate feedback before I take the pics. This will help alot.

    I adjusted the contrast and brightness and size to get the pics to look as much the same as possible,,on some anyway.

    In many ways I look exactly the same. A little disappointed but there are so many variables. I was not on the UD2 in the first pics and look more full in some ways. Todays pics were after 4 days of depletion. Inconsistant posing too. Thanks!!!
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    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Just one last rep!
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    The calves!!!


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    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 04-16-2004 at 11:30 AM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    I can definitely see a difference. I'm jealous of those calves. Damn you!
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    Just one last rep!
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    Ant: Thanks! Nice work yourself and good journal.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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    Just one last rep!
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    Need opinion on UD2 36hr refeed

    This is from Friday morning to Sat night. Depleated for 4 days previous. Worked out friday and saturday very hard. Full body workouts. Creatine and glutamine mixed in here but not always noted. total at bottom.
    Thanks!


    Breakfast
    35gC 11 of that sugar 35gP
    Workout
    60gC 6g suger 35gP creatine, glutamine
    15gC
    lunch blackbean/pork/tortilla/chips/rice/tea
    80gC 10gsugar 20gP estimates
    Snack milk and mixedwheycasine
    19gC 12gsugar 40gP
    Not eating nearly enough carbs today.
    Snack 2 tortillas with pb
    45gC na 5gP
    Snack@3-4pm
    37gC 15gsugar 15gP
    5: left over hamburger from wife last night
    35gC 5gsuger 25gP
    Dinner: ... Lean Steak, pasta salad
    15gC 50gP
    Snack 9pm milk and mrp
    42gC 45gP total so far 383gC 270gP +fat=3050
    snack bread cheese
    25gC 3gP
    Saturday AM pancakes eggs OJ
    80gC 35gP
    duringwo powerade and protein
    23gC 10gP
    Workout PWOShake
    56gC 55gP
    Lunch lean hamburger few ffries
    45gC 26gP
    Snack
    24gC 23gP
    Dinner..ham/cheese.salad hbeggs 1 beer lots of water 658c+fat+447=5.5k
    22gC 25gP
    Snack
    35gC 15gP


    Total for 36 hours from friday 8am to saturday night was::
    715gC 487gP About 90-100gfatestimate

    totals about 6kcalories

    that's more than I ate the previous 4-5 days
    Last edited by LuvDaPump; 04-18-2004 at 10:19 AM.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I really don't give a **** I'm gonna eat em both!
    Height: 69" Weight: 205 BF% about 15
    Chest: 47 Biceps: 16.5
    Waist: 34 Thigh: 26
    Calves: 16.5 Neck: 16.25
    Wrist: 7 Ankle: 8.5
    Main Supplements are: Various proteins (200-250g/day) Aminos, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitamins. Best way to put on muscle? Lift as heavy as possible. Consume lots of protein and carbs around workout. Biggest weakness is hamstring and lower back. Working on DL.

    Journal in progress

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