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    The Suzanne Song

    Very much the same song by two different artists, one Dutch and one American. same song title- Suzanne.

    Its a slow calm love song about a girl called Suzanne obviously, its voice and a guitar and nothing else. Lyrics make some kind of melancholic comparison between the girl and jesus.

    I really just want to know which is the original. The dutch one is by Herman van Veen and the American one is one I downloaded that has no artist title.

    Id say the Dutch one is certainly better- I want to know who is the American singing and who wrote it. van Veen writes loads of stuff, but he does covers too
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    I'm pretty sure the original is by Leonard Cohen.
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    Thanks you are right. His website says the song is from the 1968 album Songs of " "

    Herman van brought out his version in 1987 so he must have copied off cohen, but I see now he credits him for it too...

    anyway thats ok cuz his version is better

    Why did I want to know this again?

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    Yeah, yeah. Wooden shoes are better than rubber ones, we know. We've heard it all before.



    As a side note, I think I'll download both and compare - and I'll tell YOU which one is better. What I'm wondering, though, is if Hank Williams ever did a version.. Then we all KNOW who wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinier
    Very much the same song by two different artists, one Dutch and one American. same song title- Suzanne.

    Its a slow calm love song about a girl called Suzanne obviously, its voice and a guitar and nothing else. Lyrics make some kind of melancholic comparison between the girl and jesus.

    I really just want to know which is the original. The dutch one is by Herman van Veen and the American one is one I downloaded that has no artist title.

    Id say the Dutch one is certainly better- I want to know who is the American singing and who wrote it. van Veen writes loads of stuff, but he does covers too
    One correction: Leonard Cohen is Canadian. Not American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyno Rhino
    Yeah, yeah. Wooden shoes are better than rubber ones, we know. We've heard it all before.



    As a side note, I think I'll download both and compare - and I'll tell YOU which one is better. What I'm wondering, though, is if Hank Williams ever did a version.. Then we all KNOW who wins.
    haha. the dutch version is in dutch so it will obviously appeal to you less than the english one. I just think the dutch is better lyrically, the change there is quite drastic, its mainly more poetic.
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