MIP/Disorderly Conduct

[heathj]

Had a party over the weekend and I was the only man with enough balls to actually talk to the cops, out of the other five people that I live with. I got an MIP and disorderly condut. I know lots of people that have had one or the other, but never two. Any idea how much the charge will be? Any thoughts on what I should say to the judge when I talk to him? I'm assuming I'll have to fork out at least $500...thanks.

[GrumpyTX]

I paid $310 for a MIP ticket because I was driving the car, had 3 cases in the trunk and one of the 3 girls riding with me was under 21 and had a beer. I wasnt even drinking.

Funny thing is, I was pulled over by a bicycle cop while driving my 420+ HP Monte Carlo SS. Kinda like that picture that was circulating of the cop with the radar gun on horseback.

[Allie]

Check with your student services, at MSU we pay a student tax to ASMSU that provides us with FREE legal service. They got two of my friends off with a civil infraction and community service for the same citation that you recieved.

[Berserker]

I had one in MI years ago got some cummunity service. I don't think I went in front of the judge for it, but I can't remember.

I would dress nice and be polite, maybe plead no contest. My guess is you will pretty much get a planned sentence. He knows what he is going to give ya.

Bad thing for you is once you have anything on your record you can never have a felony removed. Even a MIP counts as another offense.

[gopher]

Bad thing for you is once you have anything on your record you can never have a felony removed. Even a MIP counts as another offense.

I have no idea what this means. An MIP is a misdemeanor as is disorderly conduct. A typical sentence for a person with a clean record is community service and probation. If you finish probation without getting in trouble again it will most likely be expunged from your record. If you have access to legal services I would tak to them.
If you plan on going out and committing felonies (robberies, assaults, selling drugs, etc) and MIP on your record will have nothing to do with how your case is treated.

[Berserker]

Yes it does. I had committed a felony at 17. A MIP at 18, which they only gave me a probabation violation for. My lawyer told if I had actually had the MIP I would not have been able to get my record expunged. If I would have anything else on there would not have been able. So I did talk to a lawyer.

[gopher]

I'm still a little confussed about this Berserker (It's a low carb day so bear with me) If I understand what you are saying your situation is a bit different than heathj's. You got your MIP after you had a felony on your record. The criminal justice system goes much harder on people who have committed a felony and then break the law again (no matter how minor) If heathj goes out and robs a bank he will be treated the same as a guy without an MIP on his record. If someone with a record for bank robbery gets caught drinking under age he/she will be treated much more harshly than your typical college kid at a frat party.

[Berserker]

MY only point is if you have a MIP and ever commit a felony, you will not be able to have the felony removed after 5 or 7 years. Not that they would go harder on you in court. But to get your record expunged you must have only one charge on it. Maybe there is a way around that, I don't know. But that is what my lawyer told me.
Its a bit of a tanget from this thread too.

[PowerManDL]

If you're an adult, felonies don't go away. There's some leeway granted to those 18 and under, depending on the offense and the judge, since juvenile's records generally are cleared upon reaching 18, unless you're dealing with a pretty serious offense. Different situation.

[Berserker]

Michigan you are an adult at 17. So yes you can have an offense expunged as an adult, providing you wait long enough and have only one charge on your record.

I am not sure about your record getting wiped clean when you become an adult. But I had to get mine expunged so I could own a gun. But I was already an adult.

[kingmetal]

Upon completing probation/parole and being a 'model citizen' for a number of years (I believe its five in Idaho) you can appeal to the courts that the felony on your record is a isolated incident and file to have your rights (to vote, bear arms, etc.) returned to you.
I plan on filing as soon as I hit five, and Ive got 3 felonies on my adult record. But as far as the felony 'going away' that aint gonna happen.
In idaho you can plead no contest, meaning that your not pleading guilty or innocent, but agree the court probably has enough evidence to convict, and after a period of time (usually once your off parole/probation) the felony is expunged. Or so they told me... but it was used against me nonetheless when I picked up a new beef. So they DONT ever just "go away"- they even pulled up my extensive juveline history.
And sorry for straying so far off topic!

[ElPietro]

Say you were having a "coming out of the closet" party for yourself and got a bit out of control. Maybe he'll fear offending the gay community and let you off with a slap on the wrist.

It's a very believable story with the way you look.

[Allie]

One word to the wise, pleading no contest is treated as a plea of guilty at sentencing