Who here smokes marijuana yet has a great body?

[Dirty Old Man]

Every one of you has missed the point of this thread entirely.
I smoke pot everyday and have a great body
Mind you, my lungs aren't that pretty
Don't do drugs.

[SsiK]

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[SalahG]

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[JustinF]

**Personal insults will not be tolerated. If you cannot voice your opinion without resorting to insults, don't voice it.**

[Relentless]

I will chime in and say that I used to get high allll day every day. Smoked when I woke up, before I worked out, after I worked out, before work, during work, alllll the time. All in all, I'd say it hurt my wallet. Getting high has always brought out obsessive compulsive traits in me, which never did anything but make my bodybuilding excel. I'm quite the busy beaver when I'm high, but don't partake often.

Yup. They say MJ leads to other drugs. But for me, it often led to carpentry.



Eric Schlosser's book "Reefer Madness: Sex, Drugs, and Cheap Labor in the American Black Market", in addition to being an entertaining read, has a lot of well-researched information on the B.S. nature of anti-drug campaigns and the dis-information promoted by the religious right and various right wing politicos.

The very nature of the anti-drug commentary in this thread is almost certainly a direct result of the "Just Say NO" campaigns and their ilk. I mean, it's clear that repetitive advertising works. Nike knows it. Coke knows it. The Federal Government knows it. 'Nuff said.

For myself, I'm in pretty decent shape and have the occasional smoke. Schwarzenegger smoked, and it didn't seem to slow down his gains too much. BCC smoked, and just LOOK at the boy's pictures.

I think the bottom line here is that ANYTHING to excess can hurt your gains but in moderation, you can get away with almost anything as well.

[BHerks]

i thought everybody smoked?

[Madd Hatter]

Ok, now let's argue over what "moderation" is. Like drinking, goin crazy on just the weekends? A few puffs every night?

[toughguywannabe]

moderation to me is once or twice a month.. same thing with drinking.. the thing about smoking weed is that u can only get so high to where smoking even more wouldn't serve a purpose.. which really sucks that's why i consider weed is a weak ass drug compared to drinking..

[SW]

so basically gov't is sayin all this crap about weed jus to scare ppl.. the funniest thing i've heard of was that if u smoked a seed a canabis plant can grow inside of you lol it was on some tape in my health class a few years back.. i think we should legalize all drugs just like portugal.. we'd save billions of dollars a year from stopping the war on drugs.. if ppl decide to do a harmful subtance like heroin that's their own stupidity.. i also think if a substance is legal it would give some ppl a reason to stop using it.. i know ppl that stopped smoking weed b/c their parents didn't even care..

Good grief....

I don't believe that a weed plant will grow inside you, that's just stupid.
ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL, that's quite close to the dumbest **** I've ever heard in my life. It's their own stupidity, but it's other ppl, not only the user, who must suffer for drug addictions, we're not talking smallfry drugs, we're talking the hard ****, and if you can type you have the IQ (no flame) to see what it does to families. Drug wars between gangs and unintelligent ppl are bad enough, imagine the chaos that would be Drugs'R'Legal in America! It would be something like the movie robocop 2, in the respect of huge problems with drugs, that's the only things it would be similar to in that movie.
Heroin kills ppl, so do all other lillegal drugs and some legal ones. It would be something ppl would put their whole paychecks into and buying drugs freely and legaly would make the economy ruled by drugs, because of the incredible addictive properties they posses. It's already a huge business, the economy would probably benefit from the sales, but the people wouldn't, they'd be the ones suffering.

[Saint Patrick]

Heroin kills ppl, so do all other lillegal drugs and some legal ones.

Darwinism.

[Adetweiler]

If people want to kill themselves then let them. If it was all legal you could undercut all the drug dealers and still make money, which would put them out of business. The only problem you would have is people shooting up and then driving, so at that point I would suggest places where people can go to shoot up, maybe we could call them ?Bars?

[BCC]

You know, the people that are going to be shooting up and driving...are already shooting up and driving.

[Roark]

you know the deathmetal band deicide was fairly recently arrested at the canadian border with methamphetamine, steroids, and assault rifles

now that's a ****in party right there

[Relentless]

Good grief....

I don't believe that a weed plant will grow inside you, that's just stupid.
ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL, that's quite close to the dumbest **** I've ever heard in my life. It's their own stupidity, but it's other ppl, not only the user, who must suffer for drug addictions, we're not talking smallfry drugs, we're talking the hard ****, and if you can type you have the IQ (no flame) to see what it does to families. Drug wars between gangs and unintelligent ppl are bad enough, imagine the chaos that would be Drugs'R'Legal in America! It would be something like the movie robocop 2, in the respect of huge problems with drugs, that's the only things it would be similar to in that movie.
Heroin kills ppl, so do all other lillegal drugs and some legal ones. It would be something ppl would put their whole paychecks into and buying drugs freely and legaly would make the economy ruled by drugs, because of the incredible addictive properties they posses. It's already a huge business, the economy would probably benefit from the sales, but the people wouldn't, they'd be the ones suffering.

Dude, do some research instead of watching bad sci-fi movies if you want to argue about something.

What kills me is that your in example, drugs are not LEGALIZED at all. In Robocop 2, the whole plot (what there is of it -- that movie was total ass) is based around how a CRIMINAL DRUG DEALER is made into the next generation of cyborg by some ruthless corporate chick. If anything, the movie is a criticism of amoral corporate profiteering, not of drugs.

Anyway.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa121.html
Check out this website for a well-researched and rational set of arguments in favor of legalization.

There's also a pretty instructive list of questions to ask yourself here:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...T/showstop.htm
(in general, this is a pretty well researched site as well)

Don't get me wrong, i think you're completely entitled to your opinion and you are of course welcome to abstain from any and all drugs.

But I just completely disagree that you have the right to tell me what I can and cannot use. Drugs don't destroy families and kill people. Drug ABUSE does that. You can do it with alcohol as easily as with heroin, dude.

[Gizotch]

Well, one thing for sure, weed giving you the munchies will definitely help bring in the calories on a bulk .

cheers to that

[SW]

Dude, do some research instead of watching bad sci-fi movies if you want to argue about something.

What kills me is that your in example, drugs are not LEGALIZED at all. In Robocop 2, the whole plot (what there is of it -- that movie was total ass) is based around how a CRIMINAL DRUG DEALER is made into the next generation of cyborg by some ruthless corporate chick. If anything, the movie is a criticism of amoral corporate profiteering, not of drugs.

Anyway.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa121.html
Check out this website for a well-researched and rational set of arguments in favor of legalization.

There's also a pretty instructive list of questions to ask yourself here:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...T/showstop.htm
(in general, this is a pretty well researched site as well)

Don't get me wrong, i think you're completely entitled to your opinion and you are of course welcome to abstain from any and all drugs.

But I just completely disagree that you have the right to tell me what I can and cannot use. Drugs don't destroy families and kill people. Drug ABUSE does that. You can do it with alcohol as easily as with heroin, dude.

Yes I know that alcohol can do it just as easily, I wasn't telling you what you can and can't do I was telling you about the law. I was questioning going with the robocop example, so I made it VERY clear that the ONLY aspect it was close to reality was that drugs are bad, plain and simple, I also said that that was the only way the movie relates to reality. I also respect your opinions and see your points.

[toughguywannabe]

Good grief....

I don't believe that a weed plant will grow inside you, that's just stupid.
ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL, that's quite close to the dumbest **** I've ever heard in my life. It's their own stupidity, but it's other ppl, not only the user, who must suffer for drug addictions, we're not talking smallfry drugs, we're talking the hard ****, and if you can type you have the IQ (no flame) to see what it does to families. Drug wars between gangs and unintelligent ppl are bad enough, imagine the chaos that would be Drugs'R'Legal in America! It would be something like the movie robocop 2, in the respect of huge problems with drugs, that's the only things it would be similar to in that movie.
Heroin kills ppl, so do all other lillegal drugs and some legal ones. It would be something ppl would put their whole paychecks into and buying drugs freely and legaly would make the economy ruled by drugs, because of the incredible addictive properties they posses. It's already a huge business, the economy would probably benefit from the sales, but the people wouldn't, they'd be the ones suffering.

okay first off you don't have to insult ppl to say ur opinion.. but anywayz on with my point, the only reason why ppl choose to sell drugs is that u can make about 5 times more money selling drugs than doing any other job. That's with no experience needed any high schooler can do it.. who wouldn't choose a life like that.. making all drugs legal will make the cost of drugs so cheap.. it will be dirt cheap.. this will result in less crime imo.. why continue to fight the war on drugs? it's a war that will never end it's been going on for over 10 years.. look at some countries who legalized their drugs yes America will headline that legalizing all drugs in a country results in a disaster.. drugs can also help with gov't debt they can be taxed and basically help us. so why not legalize drugs? the only ppl that are goin to be hurt are the dumb****s who already do use it..

[Jan]

I dont smoke weed.and my body looks like sh*t... I dont get it....

[HahnB]

You know, the people that are going to be shooting up and driving...are already shooting up and driving.

Exactly. Nobody is going to start using a drug like heroin, crack or any other substance like that just because it becomes legal. Our system is flawed in many ways when it comes to drugs. You take a guy that sells pot, gets busted with a very large amount and ends up in prison for 5 years. Now that person who was selling pot is a hardened criminal(most likely) and is worse off than when he went in. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished under our current laws, but you can see what I'm getting at. Sometimes the laws create more crime than they prevent. If drugs were legal, there wouldn't be such a vast, vast criminal enterprise involved with them.

This topic kind of touches home because I knew a guy in highschool that took the brunt of the current system. He was making a little money selling very small amounts of ecstacy to his friends. One day he had an opportunity to make a lot of cash, a guy he didn't know wantd 500 pills. He decided, against his better judgement, to try and come up with the drugs. He did, and the guy was a cop. 4 years in prison, 18 years old. Someone who sold a few pills of x to his friends was coaxed by a cop to make a big sell. This kid came from a good home, and was a clean cut kid. He messed up, but he didn't deserve what he was delt in my opinion. So a kid that was going to end up in college out of highschool instead comes out of prison 4 years later with stories of people getting killed with a broom stick.

[toughguywannabe]

Exactly. Nobody is going to start using a drug like heroin, crack or any other substance like that just because it becomes legal. Our system is flawed in many ways when it comes to drugs. You take a guy that sells pot, gets busted with a very large amount and ends up in prison for 5 years. Now that person who was selling pot is a hardened criminal(most likely) and is worse off than when he went in. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished under our current laws, but you can see what I'm getting at. Sometimes the laws create more crime than they prevent. If drugs were legal, there wouldn't be such a vast, vast criminal enterprise involved with them.

This topic kind of touches home because I knew a guy in highschool that took the brunt of the current system. He was making a little money selling very small amounts of ecstacy to his friends. One day he had an opportunity to make a lot of cash, a guy he didn't know wantd 500 pills. He decided, against his better judgement, to try and come up with the drugs. He did, and the guy was a cop. 4 years in prison, 18 years old. Someone who sold a few pills of x to his friends was coaxed by a cop to make a big sell. This kid came from a good home, and was a clean cut kid. He messed up, but he didn't deserve what he was delt in my opinion. So a kid that was going to end up in college out of highschool instead comes out of prison 4 years later with stories of people getting killed with a broom stick.

Good point i was tryin to say that but yes.. legalizing drugs will be for the better good of everyone.. nobody gets arrested less crime and less taxes lol! if drugs could be taxed by gov't.. and we save billions from stopping the war on drugs..

[sharpskin69]

Iam a highschool student, i dont smoke or drink because its ****ing ******ed. Theres better things to do then poison your bodies people.

[Manveet]

Good point i was tryin to say that but yes.. legalizing drugs will be for the better good of everyone.. nobody gets arrested less crime and less taxes lol! if drugs could be taxed by gov't.. and we save billions from stopping the war on drugs..

That's assuming that these drug abusers have stable lives (ie, they have a home, a job, income etc..)

[Draven_Fenix]

Right on man!

[Draven_Fenix]

Weed is a weak drug. Just because it makes you stupid doesn't mean it a HARD drug. A HARD drug is one that makes people destroy their lives to have. No one is gonna go crazy and kill someone to get some weed or suck the weed dealers dick. They'd be too lazy. Obviously, weed kills the brain cells, but in terms of intensity and duration it is very weak. For instance, weed high lasts all of about 2-3 hours or less depending on how much you smoke while acid trips lasts 8-9 hours. Hence the reason for saying Marijuana is a weak drug.

[Draven_Fenix]

I resent that one man. Plan ahead. No matter what you eat when your high, it's gon taste good as all hell so have something healthy around. I'm sure a lot of guys on this forum have a lot of healthy foods in their houses or they wouldn't have the bodies they do. Just because your high doesn't mean you are going to have no self control. I actually find that I have no problem controlling myself and making good decisions on many things when I am high and I can always eat something healthy. I mean... just think. I think too many people use weed as an excuse to act stupid. You can still make good decisions. That's just my opinion though.