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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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  1. #1
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    i want to be big...lol...ya

    im 16 ive been working out for id say 7-8 months and i want to have decent sized arms by the end of the year....right now i do:

    biceps
    preacher curls 6-8 sets 10-15 reps
    first one 60 lbs
    second 75 lbs
    then after that 70 lbs

    trceps
    tricep cable extension 6-8 sets 8-10 reps
    first 3 sets 50 lbs
    after that 60 lbs

    My arms were 13.5 inches the last time i measured but i want them bigger.
    Can you guys give me some other workouts that make my arms bigger????
    Thanks.

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    Yes, stop doing arm workouts, start doing heavy compounds and eat like a starving hyena at all times.

    And if you're going to do an arm workout, find a different one, because that's close to the worst I've seen.

    Do weighted chins, dips, rows, and close grip bench presses to build big and strong arms.

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    everyone tells me to eat all the time my parents hate it and i do i can eat like double all of my friends
    Last edited by lilguy_bigdream; 09-22-2004 at 06:41 PM.

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    My roomate tells me that all the time. He can eat so much, he eats all the time, etc, and he never gains any weight. He's about 6', 160 lbs on a good day.

    I see this guy eat maybe once a day if that.

    Doesn't matter how much you can eat in one sitting. You might pile down 2000 calories with one meal, but if that's all you eat in a day, you're still out of luck.
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    its not just one sitting though its all the time im about 5'10 and about 150 lbs but i can never gain any weight whatso-ever!!!!!

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    If you want big arms, I'd say do 2 exercises at the most per muscle, about 6 reps each for 3 sets. Make sure you eat a lot, HEALTHY foods, and lots of protein. As was mentioned earlier, your arms grow as a side effect to other heavy compound lifts.

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    so you guys are telling me to do like half of what i do and do some totally different things??

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    Yeah, that's actually the worst workout routine I've ever seen. Search around this site for some good routines.

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    this is the only current pic i ahev at the moment
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    Why in the world would you do 6 to 8 sets of relatively high reps?
    Last edited by Batman; 09-22-2004 at 08:21 PM.

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    if you want us to give help on your arms, based on a pic maybe you should actually give us a pic of your arms and not your back man.
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    18, 6'2", 160lbs, bodyfat: 5%
    Arms:14"
    Chest:39"
    Stomach:32"
    Shoulders: 56"
    Thighs: 21"
    Calves: 15"

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    What other work are you doing besides your arms?

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    is tricep cable extensions the one where u pull down on the bar? thats on the wire.. with both hands.. anyways I do 120 on that in a set so that cant be the same one.. what one are u talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilguy_bigdream
    so you guys are telling me to do like half of what i do and do some totally different things??
    You have to be conistent about your eating habits. You have to track the amount of food you eat. Guessing/estimating will get you so far or nowhere. If you can't deal with the fact that you need to track your food and do a REAL workout, then you'll forever be 150 (or lighter).

    Start a journal. Create a Fitday account (free). Do a REAL workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilguy_bigdream
    its not just one sitting though its all the time im about 5'10 and about 150 lbs but i can never gain any weight whatso-ever!!!!!
    Then you don't eat a lot.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

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    No matter how much you think you're eating, it's not enough. If it were, you'd be putting on weight.

    Write down everything you eat in a typical day, including portion sizes. Be honest with yourself; don't eat differently just because you're monitoring it. Then use a website such as www.fitday.com or www.nutritiondata.com to work out how many calories you ate.

    Now, add 500 calories per day to that total, and eat that much every single day for a couple of weeks. If you don't put on weight, add another 500 calories and eat that every single day for a couple of weeks. Repeat until you start to put on weight. It doesn't matter how much you think you're eating; until you start to grow, it isn't enough.

    As for your workouts, you need to sort out a routine that covers your entire body. The WBB routines are a great start; look up WBB routine #1 and stick to it religously for a few months. If you want bigger arms, you're going to have to get bigger everywhere (you can't make one body part grow much without growing elsewhere too). For every inch you want to add to your arms, figure on having to gain at least 10lbs of lean mass, possibly more. That means consistent workouts and consistently eating more calories than you burn off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girn
    is tricep cable extensions the one where u pull down on the bar? thats on the wire.. with both hands.. anyways I do 120 on that in a set so that cant be the same one.. what one are u talking about?
    Machines are different. Some have a double pulley system some a single. You can lift twice as much with a double pulley system.
    Just one guy's opinion.

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    I will say that a good friend of mine is currently eating 6000 calories a day at 160lbs and over the course of 2 months he's only put on a pound or two and that was up front. Some people just require more calories than others...some require a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max-Mex
    You have to be conistent about your eating habits. You have to track the amount of food you eat. Guessing/estimating will get you so far or nowhere. If you can't deal with the fact that you need to track your food and do a REAL workout, then you'll forever be 150 (or lighter).

    Start a journal. Create a Fitday account (free). Do a REAL workout.
    In all honesty... that's a load of crap man. There are thousands, maybe millions of people who are big and have never recorded down what they eat or what they did in the gym. The guys at my wrestling gym for instance; many of them can clear 1100 on the big 3. Yet none of them record down ****.

    But yeah, you do need a REAL workout as Max said.
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    i usually have two different workouts. one is arms and shoulders and the other is all chest.
    for the chest i do incline bench with dumbells
    30 40 45 50 55 lbs 6-8 reps each
    then flat bench barbell 100 120 150 130 lbs 6-8 reps each
    i alternate the workouts every day, but weekends off.

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    Take a look at the routines people use on this site.

    You need to train your entire body, and at your age and experience, you'd probably be best off with a very simple program based on compound lifts (squats, SLDL, presses, rows, chins, etc.)

    Your diet is probably an issue as well, but you need to fix your training. For now, just eat lots of healthy foods.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    k thanks for the help ill use workout number one from this site.
    thanks for the advice. ill get more pics later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterSh0ck
    In all honesty... that's a load of crap man. There are thousands, maybe millions of people who are big and have never recorded down what they eat or what they did in the gym. The guys at my wrestling gym for instance; many of them can clear 1100 on the big 3. Yet none of them record down ****.
    well, I could be wrong but most wrestlers aren't trying to gain weight (weight classes) unless they are trying to move up in a class. So ofcourse they don't track what they eat. Powerlifters are the same way. To me, it seems he isn't either of the two. So, in order for lilguy to gain weight he needs to eat more. How much more? Good question...that's where tracking calories comes into play.

    Again consistency is important because if he eats say 500 cals over 1 day and only 100 the next 6 days, his overall increases will be smaller than if he consistently ate over 500 everyday. Again tracking will help with this.
    Burritos are the bomb for bulking!
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    Squat: PR 1@375, Goal 1@400
    Bench: PR 2@275, Goal 1@300

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripped..shirt
    if you want us to give help on your arms, based on a pic maybe you should actually give us a pic of your arms and not your back man.
    lol yeah

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    you have to eat a lot. since you have a fast metabolism you have an advantage. you could eat more food without gaining fat. thats going to really do your muscles good. the problem is you dont eat. you look around 5% bodyfat on that pic.

    you say you cant gain weight but i think you can. try going to carls jr and order their 1 lb 6 dollar burger combo supersized. order that for breakfast, lunch and dinner. ill bet my ass youll be bloated the next day.

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