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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Question to all you football players out there.

    How is it that football players can become such strong massive doods, yet they can still run so freaking fast. I always found it really insane. What is it that football players do to be able to be so big and strong, yet so fast? How do football players train to be able to do that? I want to be able to do that.

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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Look at elephants...big, huge, massive... but they can sure as hell out run you, me, Terrell Owens. IT's the legs, their legs are built to move large objects, like their upper body. You see the offensive lineman or the D-lines belly pooching out, just remember, under those bellies, are big strong legs to move those bodies.

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    If you want to be big and fast, train to be big and fast.

    Look into several football training programs floating around. I'm training to play ball, so is JustinF, and SalahG. Look into our journals, float around google and whatnot. I believe Nebraska has a modified version of their routine on their HuskerPower website. Those boys are big, strong, and fairly fast.
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    cross training.


    you lift to get big and strong then run and do plyometrics to train your stronger muscles to fire better which makes you faster along with being bigger and stronger
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    there are very powerful.

    trian with sprints to get faster. and use squat etc to get very storng. add in some plyometric work as well
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    do football palyers have endurance, i'ave never played football so i wouldn't know. They seem to have a lot of rest between downs. They way i see is that they are much like sprinters that gow full out for a play and then they break to do it again. does that sound right?
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    depends what you mean "football players"

    the defensive line generally are slow asses...

    offensive line are made to be nimble quick but tough.

    they have given themselves a balance of muscle and speed.

    the defensive line put on / keep extra fat to give extra stability and a better hit for the tackle.

    i dont know that much about football, but i do know theres a huge difference between basic skill / body composition of defensive / offensive lineups.

    hope that helps
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    i dunn obout dline being slow, you see richard seymour run back that fumble today? he's got some wheels.
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    - women eat cream cakes when you are not looking and have chocolate in hiding places. There are no journal articles to refernce this fact.
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    I found that while my friends were good at drawing or skating i was good at moving heavy objects.

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    go ask david boston/jamal lewis

    that man is just silly, 5'11", 240lbs, running a 4.4...plus is quick as all get out.......he dont look like hes moving that fast, but after he gets going, no one catches him


    genetic freaks if you ask me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shad
    depends what you mean "football players"

    the defensive line generally are slow asses...

    offensive line are made to be nimble quick but tough.

    they have given themselves a balance of muscle and speed.

    the defensive line put on / keep extra fat to give extra stability and a better hit for the tackle.

    i dont know that much about football, but i do know theres a huge difference between basic skill / body composition of defensive / offensive lineups.

    hope that helps

    Actually, you have it opposite. Generally offensive linemen are heavier and slower than defensive linemen. Defensive lineman have to react to and try to tackle quarterbacks and running backs. Defensive ends are often quite lean and athletic. Offensive linemen in certain schemes mainly drive or pass block and don't have to move a whole lot in space. They get very heavy and very strong (traditional Nebraska). Certain schemes call for smaller, more active linemen to move and pull (traditional Penn State, Denver Broncos).

    The exception to this is nose or defensive tackles that are designed to be space fillers. Ted Washington is a good example of this, he's basically on the play to tie up as many offensive linemen as possible and allow the linebackers to make the tackle. The Baltimore Ravens made this popular a few years ago (huge defensive tackles, fast defensive ends, and mobile linebackers) and rode it to the Super Bowl. It's been copied quite often in the league since.
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    uh david boston? pure steroids man...-- he doesnt look like he's moving fast when he tears his knee under all the weight of the bloated steroid freak on top of it.
    boston is what happens when you have good genetics+great training+great nutrition+great steroids.
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    - women eat cream cakes when you are not looking and have chocolate in hiding places. There are no journal articles to refernce this fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinstarke
    I found that while my friends were good at drawing or skating i was good at moving heavy objects.

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    Alright, so...

    -Lift heavy
    -Train legs a lot
    -Plyometrics <-- What's Plyometrics?
    -Do Sprints/Runs

    And that's the general idea? I'm gonna look at you football player's journals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I've played football for 15 years and I can tell you that athletically, football players train to be the most complete athletes of any sport. Balancing the combination of size, strength, and speed is the key to creating the optimal physique for your position. When you're on the field, you have less than 40 seconds "rest" between plays, which isn't very much, especially if you're in there for a while. If you do sprint training, you know how quickly you get burned-out. I know that while I'm doing sprint training in addition to weight training, I maintain/gain muscularity while losing fat. That type of training triggers many anabolic processes in the body.

    Genetics and training style make these guys the freaks they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    What's Plyometrics?


    I looked it up on the internet, but I don't really understand it. Can someone simplify the meaning of it for me and tell me some good plyometric exercises that will increase sped and power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    cmon dont be lazy kid, google plyometrics and youll get millions of results..
    basically it trains your muscle to fire real fast.. but read up and you'll see what i mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by body
    - women eat cream cakes when you are not looking and have chocolate in hiding places. There are no journal articles to refernce this fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinstarke
    I found that while my friends were good at drawing or skating i was good at moving heavy objects.

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    as a 14-year old you probably don't need to worry about plyo yet anyway... focus on building up a solid core of muscle with basic, compound exercises

    squat, deadlift, power clean, bench

    and for the rest of it, you can do drills and whatnot but one of the most important things you can do to improve your game is to PLAY

    play touch, play flag, play rugby, play soccer... these are all valuable as cross training for you as a football player... gino is exactly right in that football players are among the most complete athletes in the world

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