can you order guns online if you have a permit to carry? anyone recommend some sites?
you have to have it shipped to an ffl for the paperwork and transfer. i have ordered a police trade in glock from www.cdnninvestments.com. you have to download the catalog to see the guns, and you have to call to order them.
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Not that I'm aware of. Considering it would be easy to fake who you are online it wouldn't make much sense because you have to get a backround check (atleast in ohio) for all firearm purchases.
Most dealers will charge atleast $50 bucks to have a gun shipped in from another dealer. 99% of the time after shipping and the charge you're better off just buying the gun from your dealer.Originally Posted by benny
ya i don't even have a permit yet. my training course is the 17th/18th of february, so i actually just want sites that sell guns, i dont' intend to order but just decide what types i like
that site is only accessories. know of any w/ lots of types of guns + pics, even if they won't ship to america? i just don't know the first thing about guns, so i'm going to take a course to know how to use them, but i want to know what type i'm gonna get when i get a permit
In Texas, if your 18 you can get a rifle or shotgun....they dont check background at all for that, just as long as you have I.D. and money... But for a handgun, you need a permit and background check. I LOVE TEXAS
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Not just a semi-auto rifle, either. Now that the assault weapon ban sunset has passed, you can get your own mac-11 or m4 along with your extended magazines for cash and no background checkOriginally Posted by Pitfan04
Oh, really?Originally Posted by twm5993
So you can buy a full-auto gun in TX without any form of registration or background check? Or were you saying that there's a difference between a "semi-auto rifle" and an "assault rifle"?
(I'm asking you this because NO, you cannot do this. Full auto guns are regulated HEAVILY by the U.S. government. And the word "assault rifle" was taken up to scare people.)
The AWB's sunset gave us back a few limited gun rights. For the most part it boils down to:
1) Mag limits are no longer enforced. This is the big deal. Gone are the days when 10rd mags were all that could be manufactured for handguns/rifles. Now the 30rd pups are back in full swing, as they should be.
2) Flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and other cosmetic features that were banned for foolish reason are now allowed free reign. This is the other big deal.
But, the regulation of fully-automatic weapons hasn't changed one bit. They still require extensive background checks, registration, and money to own (as well as potential forefeiture of your 4th amendment rights).
I'm hoping you just tripped up with your usage of the word "semi-auto". It's bad enough in this country when the anti-gun crowd doesn't know what they're talking about, but it always astounds me when the pro-gun crowd misses the tune as well (I'm not saying you're one of these cats, mind you.)
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Here in SC, where I'm at school - if I had an instate drivers license, I would be able to walk into this gun and pawn to buy a mac-11 without a background check. I went to go look at glocks with a buddy and he wouldn't sell it without a background check, however you could buy the mac-11 with just cash and a drivers license.
With what you said and a little research in mind though, it must have been semi-auto though. You could always do a select-fire modification though.
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Eh, .50 cals probably should be banned. And I say that as a gun owner and big supporter of RTKBA. Plus they're stupid expensive to shoot. Why bother? Join the freaking army and play with real guns and get paid if you've got such a hard on for firepower
Not many people are murdered with .50 caliber rifles, plus they are so expensive it's much easier and cheaper to use a smaller rifle. You're right on about being expensive to shoot though. I'd love to have one. I can't imagine how fun they are to shoot at some pumpkinsOriginally Posted by MixmasterNash
Not many people have been murdered with nuclear weapons in the past 50 years, but I sure don't want you to have one either.Originally Posted by HahnB
.50's are just sort of stupid, if you ask me. Basically useless for anything an individual would want a gun for, except replacing their penis. When the black helicopters come to take the freepers and their guns, the ones with the .50's are going down just as fast as anyone else.
<sarcasm>Olympic weight sets over 500 lbs should be banned. No one needs to lift that much weight anyway. It's too expensive to buy anyway.</sarcasm>
Sorry, but banning .50 rifles because you don't like them is bull****. To hear that from a supposed "supporter of RKBA" just chaps my hide. It's a bill of rights, not of needs or wants.
Whose to say your hunting rifle or handgun isn't a "sniper cop/killer assault child-killing death weapon" and ban it. I'd say more but I'd prefer not to get banned with less than 20 posts to my name.
To the topic at hand - I've had success buying guns online (gunbroker.com). Basically you need to arrange a local FFL who is willing to recieve the firearm in the mail. Mine charged $20 + sales tax (which I hear is a good price). You have to fill out the standard background check form and they keep a record of it. Make sure you keep the FFL fee and the shipping charges in mind when pricing stuff. Local dealers are usually a better deal, but occassionally you can find a good deal online.
A 50cal isn't going to hurt anyone any more than a glock.. plus you'd have to be ******ed to actually shoot someone with a 50cal.
Yea and lets ban expensive cars, caviar, and everything thats just for fun !!!Eh, .50 cals probably should be banned. And I say that as a gun owner and big supporter of RTKBA. Plus they're stupid expensive to shoot. Why bother? Join the freaking army and play with real guns and get paid if you've got such a hard on for firepower
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WHAT!? Are you nuts?Originally Posted by Ares
Trust me, if you get hit with a 0.50cal round from a high power rifle, there wont be much left of you. Our weapons instructer said that if you shot at someone with a 0.50 cal and you hit the ground within 1m from them, the shockwave would break their legs. And besides they told us repeadetly that you weren't supposed to shoot at people with a .50cal during war, because it was 'inhumane', and should therefore only be used against other targets.
I loved to shoot with the 12,7mm (0.50cal) gun, what sucked was that you had to change the barrel after 100-150shots, or it would get too hot and the round could go off inside the barrel. And yeah, cleaning it was also a bitch.
Yes, because they have the potential for extreme acts of terrorism.Originally Posted by Genacide
The logical extension of your argument is that basically everything should be legal, until it is used in an illegal fashion. This is plainly ridiculous. Should machine guns be legal without a license? Should missiles be legal? Etc.
The question is, where do you draw the line? A .50 has NO redeeming values in my book.
They're COOL!Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
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What is so special about .50 rifles that makes it different from your hunting rifle? They will both pierce bulletproof vests. Both are accurate at long ranges. Both have the capability to kill humans. Enlighten me.
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The gun fetishization specific to the .50 is incredibly unhealthy. Seriously, can't folks just drive a slightly less obvious penis replacement instead of shooting one?Originally Posted by pytron
We see it right here as everyone's panties get all twisted up over a stupid ass gun. It's heavy. It's no good for hunting. It obviously has no redeeming value for protection against criminals or black helicopters. Indeed, it's not particularly dangerous as almost any other gun is better for doing almost ANYTHING else!
I want to ban it to save you the trouble of owning or using such a stupid gun. Get a real hunting rifle, and maybe you'll learn some potentially practical skills when you're blasting away. If you're just going to shoot for fun, you'll save money too, and you won't have to go out in the middle of the desert to shoot it.
So we should ban the gun because almost any other gun does the job better? Why not just let the market sort it out? I doubt I'll ever own or even shoot a .50, but I'm not out here lobbying to ban them. At the same rate, I'm not going to buy a .40 S&W because I don't like the caliber. By your reasoning, I should be lobbying to ban them.Indeed, it's not particularly dangerous as almost any other gun is better for doing almost ANYTHING else!
I don't see any actual support for your point. Just snide, smug commentary and personal opinion.Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
Are you trying to debate the point or just trying to get the supporters of firearms freedom to respond with some vitriol?
Yes, I think that there are technical reasons that a .50 isn't a particularly reasonable thing to have in the hands of individuals. But, in a sense, pytron is right, that market forces will dictate that other guns are misused long before any terrorist or crazy starts blowing stuff up with a .50.Originally Posted by Callahan
If you support keeping a .50 legal, what size weapon should not be legal? If you say, the .50 should be, but not anything larger, why draw an arbitrary line there?
My technical reason is that the .50 can in no way be construed as an anti-personnel weapon, which is what I believe the 2nd ammendment reasonably protects. Yes, this may include some of the other larger hunting calibres as well. I HATE when politicians, yes, usually liberals, say something like "hunting rifles will always be legal." There is no god damn constitutional protection for hunting rifles in any way whatsoever. Military grade assault weapons are far more reasonably covered under the 2nd ammendment. Of course, that argument doesn't fly with anyone, liberals or conservatives.