Can you get a Degree even if you are clueless??

[SilverSonic]

I am just about to finish an "HND" at my community college.. Basically this means that this september I can go straight into 3rd year of Electronic Engineering at University, and then 4th year for an Honours.. This is a decent Scottish university




Anyway, (i know im going to sound horrendously good-for-nothing now) even though ive got the credits to get into 3rd year (the college & the university have a special deal), i dont really know what im doing.. Like I always need prompting on how to decode a circuit, and i always forget the stuff like Kirchhoffs laws (or even fail to recognise it), and other general acts of incompetence. You may wonder why im even doing this but ive received an inheritance which I get if I go to University, and not to sound like a spoilt piece of ****, will pay for my living while im studying (im really lucky)


So can you wing university??? I DO study, but im just not any good at it. Can you get an honours degree if you dont have that spark of cleverness, a solid grip on the subject??? Muddle my way through as they say??

[HahnB]

It depends what classes you're taking, and what you're good at. If you're a good writer, you could pass a English writing class fairly easy, but other classes you're going to have to study for. To put it simply, after you're done with the basic classes getting good grades is going to require work.

[TheMachine]

I thought it was a prerequisite.....

[greekboy80]

Can you get an honours degree if you dont have that spark of cleverness, a solid grip on the subject??? Muddle my way through as they say??

First off get a spell/grammer check on your cpu. That should be a start.

Honors could be a little difficult, but you could def. graduate. Anybody can with a little determination.

I graduated high school with a 1.9 GPA.
I graduated from College with a 3.2 GPA, that was an accomplishment.

Determination my friend!

[SilverSonic]

First off get a spell/grammer check on your cpu. That should be a start.

Honors could be a little difficult, but you could def. graduate. Anybody can with a little determination.

I graduated high school with a 1.9 GPA.
I graduated from College with a 3.2 GPA, that was an accomplishment.

Determination my friend!

I speak English English (Honour/colour etc), not American English

[JTyrell710]

First off get a spell/grammer check on your cpu. That should be a start.

Honors could be a little difficult, but you could def. graduate. Anybody can with a little determination.

I graduated high school with a 1.9 GPA.
I graduated from College with a 3.2 GPA, that was an accomplishment.

Determination my friend!

with a 1.9 gpa i dont know if you should be correctin him man tuttut , especially since he's speaking proper english while we aint. na mean?

honour, colour etc. are all the accepted way of spelling across the pond

[Rik-s]

honour, colour etc. are all the accepted way of spelling across the pond

lol your right, although they are not the 'accepted' way of spelling. They're the way of speilling in 'actual' English, not a altered version of it

[MixmasterNash]

Ahem.

a spell/grammer check

[galileo]

First off get a spell/grammer check on your cpu. That should be a start.

I graduated high school with a 1.9 GPA.

I suppose that would be reason enough to get spelling and grammar confirmation before posting.

[Focused70]

It kind of depends on the school. There was a controversy a few years ago when Stanford removed "pass/fail" from their policy. Others soon followed suit. Not sure if it was Stanford actually, could have been some other university.

Stash

[Guido]

I've seen major idiots manage to get get degrees at the University I went to. I always wondered how they actually managed to get admitted. If they can do it, you can do it.

[smalls]

Yes, many people do it all the time. Much of what you learn in school is just schoolwork, not real life. So if you can jump through the hoops the way a teacher wants you to you can get a degree. Often you can even be successfull in that field, depending on what it is.

That being said, you should apply yourself as much as possible and actually learn the material, not just be able to regurgitate it. There are p.h.d. candidates at my school that barely have a grasp on applied physiology, yet they are nearly done with their disertation. Some people have an uncanny ability to BS their way through.

[bgs1154]

Also I suggest, if you are not, gain experience in your field of interest through interships and things of that nature. Employers want to see a degree, but also experience counts a lot and probably more.

[pytron]

I knew lots of folks that did terrible and never really grasped circuit analysis yet did fine in later years in Electrical Engineering (this was in the states). They were in the same track as me - digitial, which doesn't really require circuit anaylsis or knowing analog circuits. A lot of it ended up being computer programming in the end.

So, I think you could probably wing it and do fine. Just play to your strengths and avoid your weaknesses.

[Praetorian]

Well, I'm currently in the process of trying to bs my way through a mech eng/commerce degree. It's going ok for the moment and hopefully I'll be able to pull it off.

I just make sure that I have a lot of reference books lying around when doing assignments or questions, because it's not like the profs/lecturers pull the questions out of their asses. Most often they find them in some old books that they don't mention at all. I once found the answer to an entire assignment question in an old engineering book from the 70s (it was an 'example' in that book). I passed that course with distinction, but to be honest I don't know jack about that subject.

[SilverSonic]

yeah I know that stuff about experience, I had a long think about going straight into a job now or working for a degree

[Vido]

So can you wing university??? I DO study, but im just not any good at it. Can you get an honours degree if you dont have that spark of cleverness, a solid grip on the subject??? Muddle my way through as they say??

Sure. Test-taking ability and knowledge are 2 different things.

[Dirt]

I am just about to finish an "HND" at my community college.. Basically this means that this september I can go straight into 3rd year of Electronic Engineering at University, and then 4th year for an Honours.. This is a decent Scottish university




Anyway, (i know im going to sound horrendously good-for-nothing now) even though ive got the credits to get into 3rd year (the college & the university have a special deal), i dont really know what im doing.. Like I always need prompting on how to decode a circuit, and i always forget the stuff like Kirchhoffs laws (or even fail to recognise it), and other general acts of incompetence. You may wonder why im even doing this but ive received an inheritance which I get if I go to University, and not to sound like a spoilt piece of ****, will pay for my living while im studying (im really lucky)


So can you wing university??? I DO study, but im just not any good at it. Can you get an honours degree if you dont have that spark of cleverness, a solid grip on the subject??? Muddle my way through as they say??

Ultimately if your grades don't matter or if it's pass/fail (ie you can get 50s, 60s, etc) then you should be able to do it without much of a problem. First and second year classes are usually used to "weed" people out of the system. Upper leve classes are much more straightforward and as long as you do the work, write the exams and hand in the assignments, most of the time you'll end up passing.

Edit - The only thing that may be difficult is the 4th year honours, but it depends on your program. Many require some sort of thesis and thesis defense. You're an engineer though so I don't know how that would work out, might not even be an issue.

[MrWebb78]

lol Nash you beat me to it.

i am a good example of someone who is clueless, and working towards a degree.

[MixmasterNash]

i am a good example of someone who is clueless, and working towards a degree.

I am a good example of someone who is clueless, and has a number of them.

[nejar462]

I don't see why you'd want to BS your way through a degree.

I loved mech eng and honestly while the classes were boring at times they were still good to pay to attention too. Plus being educated is good.

I dunno I just don't see why you should have to bs your way through.

[Dirt]

I don't see why you'd want to BS your way through a degree.

I loved mech eng and honestly while the classes were boring at times they were still good to pay to attention too. Plus being educated is good.

I dunno I just don't see why you should have to bs your way through.

I can't speak for mech. engineering, but much of what you learn in any undergraduate degree is generally irrelevant to anything you may do in the future. I suspect this might not be as true for mech. engineering, but it holds true for most anything else (save other engineering majors).

[Praetorian]

I don't see why you'd want to BS your way through a degree.

I loved mech eng and honestly while the classes were boring at times they were still good to pay to attention too. Plus being educated is good.

I dunno I just don't see why you should have to bs your way through.

well, for me it's because im caught in this downward spiral where i frankly dont have time for studying (too much drinking) so I just take every assignment/quiz/exam as they come and just try to pass the subject. Look, 50% is passing, 51% is overachieving

what year of mech eng are you in?

[rdkraus]

There is no relationship between having a degree
and whether you are clueless.

Could be an inverse relationship, now that I think
about it.

[BCC]

There is no relationship between having a degree
and whether you are clueless.

Could be an inverse relationship, now that I think
about it.

I agree. I know plenty of clueless dumbasses with and without degrees.