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any members here able to with out juice if so whats your height and body weight.
You might want to ask this in the powerlifting section, but it's kind of an ego trip type question that people tend not to like.
the reason im asking its hard not being on juice i think being able to do that much would require steroids my dad claimes it can be done with years of lifting with out juice im 6,1 265 i bench only 350 one rep thats training for a couple years without steroids maybe im not lifting hard enough.
Last edited by James 96761; 03-16-2005 at 07:38 PM.
I know you said without gear .....I can do 540lbs, but I'm on gear though,personally I don't think it can be done natureally
AGE:28
Height:6'
Weight:280lbs off season, 240lbs on season
max bench 540,deadlift 650,squat 600
obstacles are things you see when you take your eye off your goal
480 in competition, natural
nice bench Flexx-I respect your strength and your honesty and integrity
Last edited by Keith Wassung; 03-16-2005 at 07:43 PM.
thanx Keith
AGE:28
Height:6'
Weight:280lbs off season, 240lbs on season
max bench 540,deadlift 650,squat 600
obstacles are things you see when you take your eye off your goal
Thanks also for you honesty Flexx.
no prob bro
AGE:28
Height:6'
Weight:280lbs off season, 240lbs on season
max bench 540,deadlift 650,squat 600
obstacles are things you see when you take your eye off your goal
yep. takes a big man (no pun intended) to admit that.
6'2" | 215 lbs
B320 S315 D440 = 1075
The Road to 1200
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I think it can be done naturally with enough dedication, and the right kind of training. And I mean raw. But it probabally depends alot on body structure to. I got to around 400 naturally before ****ing up my back. My training partner hit 455 natural and is still gaining naturally. Also only weighs 185lbs. And thats with a belt only. I dont see 500 as a limit to someone with a strong mind and strong desire, and the right kind of training. Theres alot of factors to consider though. It varies for each lifter.
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Current Lifts:
Bench: 400 (Just short of lockout) (405 COMING SOON!!) 225x27 275x17 300x10.5 315x11.75 330x8 335x6 365x3.5 (all raw)
Deadlift: 405x12, 510 off the floor, 575 from lowest setting on power rack
Beast Lift (a deadlift with the bar behind the legs): 590 off the floor,730 off the power rack on lowest setting
Incline Barbell Press: 375lbsx1 (raw) 275x13.5 225x20.75 315x6.5 335x3.5
Stats: 5'8 195-200lbs 18 3/4 inch arms (cold and flexed) 49" chest and 26" legs
It can be done. rare. But go to powerlifitng records and there be some natural lifters with higher bench press than that.
my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.
i know someone who barely lifts and can hit 500 on a bench, but then again all he does is bench and his range of motion is like 3 inches
Last edited by ryuage; 03-17-2005 at 03:42 AM.
somewhat what I eat...
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VERY few people can bench a RAW (no special bench "shirt") 500 lbs naturally. The few that could would be very big men with large frames weighing in the high 200s +.
Now, if you add a pause into the mix (as in a powerlifting competition) and still stay RAW the number would dwindle even further.
So, can it be done? Sure. Can many people do it? Heck no! I would guess somewhere in the 2-3% of the population could do it with the right training.
well the guy I know is 170 lbs... short though, doesnt know what a bench shirt is, and doesnt do any special training for his bench.... bastard/
somewhat what I eat...
http://www.thedailyplate.com/users/profile/stecson/
Yeah, I was gonna say, with a shirt I could see it being done by quite a few. But raw is entirely different. Also, if people list their bench totals, it would be appreciated if you mentioned if it's an equipped lift or not.
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There was a guy in my old gym, guy was 7' 1'' and weighed somewhere in the range of 350 - 375. He used to do reps of 8 with 405. I never asked his max, as I just looked at him in amazement.
Guys dad was older but about the same size maybe and inch or two shorter, very very good gene's.
Guy was totally natural, played college football for a while and was built good not fat, not thin...but just a great athletic build.
I'm pretty sure he could put up 500 without much sweat.
Last edited by estropes; 03-17-2005 at 09:52 AM.
I agree w/ chris mason. To do it naturally you would have to be a beast before you even picked up a weight.
Could someone please tell me the benefits of wearing a "bench shirt" and what they do for you? thanks.
6'2" | 215 lbs
B320 S315 D440 = 1075
The Road to 1200
I'm always open to suggestions and critique, so stop by and help a brother out!
"Determination is the wake-up call to the human will." - TR
It's supportive equipment for powerlifting. If you don't powerlift then there's no reason to have a bench shirt. Think of it as part of a sport.
Basically, just a really tight shirt that creates a lot of tension as the bar travels towards the chest, which aids in getting it off the chest and going back up, offering less support as you proceed through the ROM. Without a bench shirt, most powerlifting competitors would eventually be limited by how much their shoulders can take at the bottom of the lift. With a shirt, it helps increase that amount by quite a bit in some cases.
Deadlifts are like women, they'll hurt you everytime, but they'll also make you a man. - Me
Friends don't let friends do dumbell kickbacks. - Me
ElP is the smartest man in the world. - Gyno Rhino
A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls. -- Dan Quayle
If do right, no can defense. -- Mr. Miyagi
Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey:
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.
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Personally I've never tried one so I couldn't tell ya ...but curiuos if it would benifitt me very much considering I'm doing 540lbs without...nah f**k it I'll just stck to the good ole muscle shirt.lolOriginally Posted by IZich
AGE:28
Height:6'
Weight:280lbs off season, 240lbs on season
max bench 540,deadlift 650,squat 600
obstacles are things you see when you take your eye off your goal
There are a couple of guys in my gym who train bench on Sundays when I'm in to do my DE benching. They are both very big men (240+), and have both been training for many, many years. I think they can bench right around 500 without shirts, and they have claimed to not use AAS, and I beleve them.
So, it's possible, but quite rare, as Chris said. I'm hella impressed with a 400 pound unassisted bench - there aren't many out there who can even do that!
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