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Hey folks this forum is great, it's exactly what I have been looking for. Here is my issue I was a football player in high school and college, I used to eat whatever I wanted and it didn't really matter much because of the amount of excercise I did. Well my playing days have long since been over and I stepped on the scale a few months ago to the tune of 240 pounds. I started hitting the gym in January and I am down to 215, I want to get cut and defined and down to about 205 pounds, but the only routines I know are my bulking ones from my old football days. I read a few articles here and there and I modified my routine, but I don't know if it's getting the job done, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Here is my routine below.
Day 1:
Warm Up 5 minute jog on Treadmill
Bench Press 4 sets 185 lbs. x 8 reps (My bench max is around 230 - 240)
Decline Bench 4 Sets 185 lbs. x 6 -7 reps
Incline Dumbell Press 4 Sets 55 dumbells x 10 reps
Standing Curls 4 Sets (Squiggly Bar 1 25 on each side) x 8 reps
Machine Aided Butterflys 4 Sets 135 stack x 10 reps
Standing Machine Aided Tricep Press 4 Sets 70 stack x 8 reps
90 Crunches
Day 2:
15 Minute Run on Treadmill
Squats 4 sets 225 lbs. x 10 reps
Leg Press 4 sets 4 45's on each side x 10 reps
Calf Raises 4 sets 135 x 12 reps
Machine Aided Seated Leg Raises 4 sets 120 stack x 10 reps
Machine Aided Seated Leg Press 4 sets 275 stack x 10 reps
Day 3:
Warm Up 5 minute jog on Treadmill
Bench Press 4 sets 185 lbs. x 8 reps (My bench max is around 225 - 240)
Decline Bench 4 Sets 185 lbs. x 6 -7 reps
Incline Dumbell Press 4 Sets 55 dumbells x 10 reps
Standing Curls 4 Sets (Squiggly Bar 1 25 on each side) x 8 reps
Machine Aided Butterflys 4 Sets 135 stack x 10 reps
Machine Aided Chest Press 4 Sets 150 stack x 12 reps
Day 4:
OFF
Day 5:
Warm Up 5 minute jog on Treadmill
Bench Press 4 sets 185 lbs. x 8 reps (My bench max is around 230 - 240)
Decline Bench 4 Sets 185 lbs. x 6 -7 reps
Incline Dumbell Press 4 Sets 55 dumbells x 10 reps
Standing Curls 4 Sets (Squiggly Bar 1 25 on each side) x 8 reps
Machine Aided Butterflys 4 Sets 135 stack x 10 reps
Standing Machine Aided Tricep Press 4 Sets 70 stack x 8 reps
Overhead tricep dumbell raises 4 Sets 60 dumbell x 10 reps
Machine Aided Curls 4 sets 100 stack x 8 reps
90 Crunches
Day 6:
15 Minute Run on Treadmill
Squats 4 sets 225 lbs. x 10 reps
Leg Press 4 sets 4 45's on each side x 10 reps
Calf Raises 4 sets 135 x 12 reps
Machine Aided Seated Leg Raises 4 sets 120 stack x 10 reps
Machine Aided Seated Leg Press 4 sets 275 stack x 10 reps
90 Crunches
Day 7:
OFF
That's pretty much it any changes advice on exercises or changes to the routine are welcome, I know I am missing out working on a lot of muscle groups after reading a few threads on here. thanks for the help.
Last edited by mjspade; 04-29-2005 at 02:01 PM.
You need to work your back.
Why work your upper body more often than lower?
Squats work better than supplements.
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Ditch the pre-workout cardio. After is fine.
My primary focus is losing weight and developing my chest and arms, so I guess I must have been over doing it on the upper body, and I need to work some back excercises in. Is the 2 body parts a day approach the best way to go?
Agreed.Originally Posted by Built
Work you chest less and your back more. Your routine need's to encompass all major bodyparts.
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You'll get more fatburning from working your lower body hard than you will from the cardio. It'll release more test and help your upper body grow anyway.
Personally, I wouldn't do ANY cardio on leg day. If you can, you aren't working your legs hard enough IMHO.
yeah dude, you clearly work your chest way too much. chest is the smallest muscles group of the big 3. Most of the weights i gained are from my back and legs. My chest is really stubborn. A strong back can help you alot with your bench as well.
What's with the 90 crunches at the end of your workouts? I don't see you doing 90 reps for Bench Press or Squats, so why do 90 crunches? I'd suggest doing weighted sets of 6-10 reps and make sure you go slowly especially during the negative if you want to up the intensity. That seems to work well.
Last edited by fixationdarknes; 04-29-2005 at 07:02 PM.
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I do 3 or 4 short, weighted sets of abs once or twice a week.
That's all.
I did weighted swiss ball crunches with a 35lb plate behind my head, 3 sets of 10-12...its now i think 4 days later and im still sore as hell lol.
Scrap the crunches for some weighted movements.
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holy crap swiss ball crunches with a 35lbs plate behind your head are you alive! i do a plate on decline and i die!Originally Posted by shansen008
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After reading the Johnny Bravo comment I realize I need to make some changes lol, thanks for the advice folks I decided to start with the WBB routine as a baseline and make a few changes.
Day 1 : Chest and Back
Chest
Flat Barbell Bench Press : 3 x 6-8 reps
Low Incline Dumbbell Press : 3 x 6-8 reps
Dips : 2 x 6-8 reps
Decline Bench Press: 3 x 6-8
Back
Chin ups : 2 x 6-8 reps
Deadlifts : 2 x 6-8 reps
Barbell Rows : 3 x 6-8 reps
Shrugs : 1 x 10 reps
Day 2 : Cardio
HIIT
Day 3 : Legs
Squats : 3 x 6-8 reps
Hack Squats : 2 x 6-8 reps
Leg Curls : 3 x 6-8 reps
Straight Legged Deadlifts : 2 x 6-8 reps
Standing Calve Raises : 4 x 10 reps
Day 4 : Cardio
HIIT
Day 5 : Shoulders, Triceps and Biceps
Shoulders
Military Press in Rack : 2 x 6-8 reps
Seated Dumbbell Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
Standing Lateral Raises : 2 x 10 reps
Triceps :
Narrow Grip bench Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
French Press : 2 x 6-8 reps
Tricep Press : 3 x 10 reps
Biceps :
Barbell Curls : 3 x 6-8 reps
Hammer Curls : 2 x 6-8 reps
Day 6 : OFF
Day 7 : OFF
I attempted to modify this routine for cutting specifically that's why I just added more sets, and I may add more reps. If anyone can tell me anymore ways to modify this futher for cutting and weight loss I would really appreciate it. Now I just need to find out what some of these excercises are I will check the WBB1 routine forum, was adding decline bench press to the routine a good idea?
Last edited by mjspade; 04-30-2005 at 01:03 PM.
You don't do more reps and more sets for cutting - if anything, you do less - as I understand it, since you don't have as many calories to fuel you, the short, heavy sets will help preserve muscle while you lose weight.
Your weight routine shouldn't change much from cutting to bulking. The diet is what changes. You should still lift hard and heavy for either one.
I started the first day of this workout yesterday, and it felt good except for the fact that I could only do 2 chinups, my back muscles must really be underworked because I feel it today. Hopefully I will start seeing better results in a few weeks from my previous workout.
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