Count protein from all foods??

[eric1214]

Should I be counting protein from my oatmeal, bread, rice, pb,etc.???
Or just my eggs,whey,meats, etc.???

If i wanted to consume 1-1.5 g of protein should i not count the proteins from other foods???

thanks!

[thajeepster]

good question... i was wondering the same, bump.

[HILL]

As far as im aware you should count protein from everything i include it even from milk as your counting your calories from everything im having between 300g and 400 at the moment and could never reach that unless i was counting it from everything

[TheGimp]

Count it. It's not going to waste.

[eddie500]

Thats the unfortunate thinig, with the 1 gram of protein per body weight you have to only count "HIGH quality protein".

This is plant protein that has already been synthsized by animals. So you must only count protein from meats, eggs, milk for the 1 gream per pound.

If it was only that easy to count the protein from breads,pasta, potatoes etc.

[Shao-LiN]

Count from everything.

[getfit]

i agree i count everything!

[TheGimp]

Thats the unfortunate thinig, with the 1 gram of protein per body weight you have to only count "HIGH quality protein".

Says who?

[ReelBigFish]

i would just make sure you get your 1 to 1.5g/lb from complete protein sources and then consider everything else extra, because you do not know that your body will utilize the incomplete proteins becuase you may not have eaten the right foods to make a "match" so to say.

[TheGimp]

because you do not know that your body will utilize the incomplete proteins becuase you may not have eaten the right foods to make a "match" so to say.

Very few foods are incomplete proteins (only gelatin comes to mind right now).

Given that amino acids will remain in the bloodstream for around four hours, if you have anything resembling a sensible diet then your eating frequency will ensure that low quality proteins are not a problem.

The 1g / lb of bodyweight in protein is a value that has been rounded up from 0.8 g / lb and is intended that one is absolutely sure they are consuming enough protein for maximum muscle building. Once you have reached this level the limiting factor is no longer protein but calorie intake, and given that 20% of protein's energy content must be expended in order to digest it, you are simply making life difficult for yourself by forcing yourself to eat more protein.

[JeffWillConquer]

protein is protein is protein.

[ReelBigFish]

Very few foods are incomplete proteins (only gelatin comes to mind right now).

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You may want to think a little harder. All vegetable proteins are imcomplete. i.e. legumes, grains, nuts and seeds are all incomplete.

[boxingtigger]

All protein should be counted. Unless it comes from a liquid state. The body treats this type of protein different. You want good clean solid food protein to count. Only a small amount of liquid protein is actually used, the rest is pasted through. Any more than 50 grams of liquid protein is wasted. So I would caution you on counting liquid protein.

[HILL]

so you are saying that its best to get your cals than from shakes you make at home is their a difference from getting protein from say tuna or chicken than getting it from a shake i make up with oats pb whey and milk
just out if curiousity as im bulking and getting most if not all of my 5000 cals from shakes which are
300ml milk
2 scoop whey
100g oats
20g natty pb

[Rik-s]

Thats the unfortunate thinig, with the 1 gram of protein per body weight you have to only count "HIGH quality protein".

This is plant protein that has already been synthsized by animals. So you must only count protein from meats, eggs, milk for the 1 gream per pound.

If it was only that easy to count the protein from breads,pasta, potatoes etc.

May be someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but i've read that if you consume some Complete protiens with Incomplete protiens it completes the amino acid chain giving it useablity?

[TheGimp]

You may want to think a little harder. All vegetable proteins are imcomplete. i.e. legumes, grains, nuts and seeds are all incomplete.

You may want to get your information from a more up to date source. Calling these proteins incomplete is a misnomer as they contain all amino acids, simply some in limited quantities.

[TheGimp]

All protein should be counted. Unless it comes from a liquid state. The body treats this type of protein different. You want good clean solid food protein to count. Only a small amount of liquid protein is actually used, the rest is pasted through. Any more than 50 grams of liquid protein is wasted. So I would caution you on counting liquid protein.

Where do you get this stuff from?

[TheGimp]

May be someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but i've read that if you consume some Complete protiens with Incomplete protiens it completes the amino acid chain giving it useablity?

It is correct that proteins are complimentary. Furthermore eating a high quality protein with lower quality ones essentially makes up for the low quality. That is what I was alluding to in my earlier post.

[spencerjrus]

Any more than 50 grams of liquid protein is wasted. So I would caution you on counting liquid protein.

I would caution you on posting things that ridiculous on these forums.

[Built]

I just throw it all into fitday and let it work its magic.

I eat so damned much protein, I don't really care which parts "count" and which parts don't. It's still calories.

[body]

count it

[body]

It is correct that proteins are complimentary. Furthermore eating a high quality protein with lower quality ones essentially makes up for the low quality. That is what I was alluding to in my earlier post.

even eating two low quality protien source, that have a differing amino acid in a low ratio. can be added togther to get a high quailty protien as well.

otherwise vegeterians would not get muscley. eg bill pearl

[Shao-LiN]

Your diet should be varied enough in protein sources where you don't have to worry about "incomplete proteins". If you were relying on wheat bread as your sole source of protein, then I would worry, but as long as you have a good diet including protein from various sources (beef, poultry, dairy, etc. etc.), then the rationale that you should not count protein from "incomplete sources" does not matter much, if at all.

Also, more than 50g of liquid protein goes to waste? What newbie message board did you read that from?

[TheGimp]

even eating two low quality protien source, that have a differing amino acid in a low ratio. can be added togther to get a high quailty protien as well.

otherwise vegeterians would not get muscley. eg bill pearl

Absolutely. I was merely saying that not only do two low quality complementary proteins result in a high quality protein source, which is what people often refer to when talking about combining proteins, but also (obviously) high quality proteins make up for lower quality ones.

And like Shao-LiN says, one is (should be) eating high quality proteins (including vegetarian sources like eggs and dairy) with such a frequency that low quality proteins are simply not an issue.

[getfit]

Absolutely. I was merely saying that not only do two low quality complementary proteins result in a high quality protein source, which is what people often refer to when talking about combining proteins, but also (obviously) high quality proteins make up for lower quality ones.

And like Shao-LiN says, one is (should be) eating high quality proteins (including vegetarian sources like eggs and dairy) with such a frequency that low quality proteins are simply not an issue.

sorry gimp a little off topic but do you eat eggs and consume dairy at all i also posted in your journal and asked you the same question