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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Big Weight, Few Reps Question(s)

    I have been lifting for about 2 months now (July 4th will be 2 mo.) and I have always gone for 10 repititions. Should I start moving towards heavier weights and less reps? My goal has been 10 reps and 4 sets for all exercises.

    The reason I ask is because when I do my 10 reps I feel more tired than when I do 6 - 8 reps of a really heavy set. For example, Curls I can get 65X10, 75X10, and then 85X7 and 85X6.

    Today I tried:

    Curls

    65X10
    85X10
    90X5
    90X5

    What should I do?
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    Depends. Have your gains stopped or slowed alot? What are your goals ex. stronger,faster,endurace etc.
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  4. #3
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    Stronger and slightly bigger.

    My gains are there, I just want to know which I should do to maximize the gains, to possibly get more.

    Put it this way, 2 months ago I only could do 40X10, now I am at 60s in each hand in my final sets on DB Press.
    Last edited by John04Civic; 06-30-2005 at 08:44 PM.
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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    6-8 is the generally accepted reps for max size gains, and 2-4 is generally accepted for max strength. So what, 3 sets of 2-3 reps? Does that sound good to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield
    6-8 is the generally accepted reps for max size gains, and 2-4 is generally accepted for max strength. So what, 3 sets of 2-3 reps? Does that sound good to you?
    He still said that he wants to get a little bigger also. IMO 3 reps is the best rep range for strength gains and muscle size gains are the next range up from that (I don't know, say 6-9 is best range, depends on person though). So why not have him do 3-5 sets per rep. But then again I suppose if you're getting really good strength gains then you HAVE to be getting some size gains too.

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    Because it's very difficult to get alot of strength and alot of growth from the same set/rep scheme. So I went with strength because he noted it. A little size will definitely come with 3x2-3.
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    just curious.... with that 6-8 rep deal... how many sets 4?
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    Since you've only been lifting for two months, you dont want to go below 6 reps probably. It won't benefit you more than just doing 6-8 reps. 3 sets of 6-8 reps is pretty good.

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    3-4 would work nicely. Your pick. Also depends on how you feel that day.
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    You should not use curls are a measure of strength improvement is what you should do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    You should not use curls are a measure of strength improvement is what you should do.
    :withstupi

    Worry about your squat, deadlift, bench press, overhead press, pullups, and rows. Curls are only supplementary.

    Pretty much any rep range would work at your level. I would definately go heavier than 10 though. Try doing your warmup sets to 10 reps, then increase weight and do 3-4 working sets of 4-8.

    So a workout might go like this, if you can squat 200 for 4 reps:

    45x10
    95x10
    135x10
    165x8
    185x6
    200x4

    Somethin like that would work fine. Don't sweat it too much tho, just work hard, eat right, rest right and gains will come.

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    Thanks for all the great replies.

    Tomorrow, when I go to the gym, I will attempt to do 6-8 reps as that was the general consensus on how I should lift.

    That is usually when I quit, is when I can only do about 4 to 8 reps in good form.

    Thanks for the great pointers!

    John
    Squat = Not enough
    DL = Not enough
    Bench = Not enough

    Big 3 = Not enough

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