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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...189658,00.html
A teacher accused of repeatedly seducing a 14-year-old pupil is too pretty to go to jail, her lawyers argue.
Debra Lafave, 24, faces up to 30 years in a Florida jail on charges including lascivious battery.
Her lawyer told a pre-trial hearing: "To place Debbie into a state women's penitentiary, to place an attractive young woman in that kind of hellhole, is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions."
Ms Lafave, a former pin-up model, will claim she was insane due to emotional stress and did not know right from wrong when she had sex numerous times with Matthew Merchant while she was a middle-school reading teacher.
The boy told investigators they had sex in a classroom, her house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove.
He said Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed.
The judge agreed to appoint two mental health professionals to evaluate Lafave.
Her trial has been set for December 5.
I don't think this woman should be charged with ANYTHING. It's different from when a 14 year old female has sex with an older man. It's not like she played with his emotions, "confused" him, or made him do something he didn't want to. I'm sure the kid was more than happy to bang the snot outta this broad. I mean come on, what 14 year old wouldn't be?
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I disagree completely.
If we're going to sentence ANYONE to prison for sex with someone under a specific age, then it needs to be extended to both men AND women.
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I think this is one instance that shows there is no "equality" thus laws shouldn't be based solely on it.
I just don't see the problem with a male who's in puberty having sexual relations with an older woman. The boy can't get pregnant, and faces virtually no emotional issues from the event. Furthermore, it's clearly what he wants. Boys at 14 aren't raped by woman, or atleast that occurance is VERY VERY low. Chances are this older woman will be FAR more responsible than some smug 14 year old schoolgirl, likely making the boy use protection. I know a kid several months younger than me who slept with someone in there mid 20s when he was 15; all it really did was boost the hell out of his self esteem, made him happy, and he's as normal as can be.
It's different with females however, who are commonly raped and told to say they wanted to do it. Many females, even if they wanted to do it, can become pregnant and as well face strong emotional issues. All this can drag on negatively for the rest of there lives.
With these obvious differences, how can you say the laws should be the same?
Now do I think it's wrong for older people to be sleeping with younger people? Yes and no (the no is explained above). Should the teacher lose her job? Yes. I just don't think it should be considered a criminal act.
Last edited by Canadian Crippler; 07-22-2005 at 02:54 AM.
"I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr
"im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas
"had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth
"most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx
"We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr
"Damn man why are some women just so demonic and evil.. its like you wanna get a stake and mallet and an erection at the same time." - WBBIRL
All i know is, it would have made me the happiest 14 year old alive, if my hot teacher had sex with me. Hell, it'd make me the happiest 17 year old alive if my hot 20 something year old teacher banged me in the classroom.
If that were to happen, i don't think she should go to prison for it. She wanted it, i wanted it..
It didn't do anybody any sort of harm, only did good. Why should she go to prison for it?
Now if only this would really happen...
thats one attractive teacher. The kid has fulfilted every 14 year olds' dream. We all have a hot teacher in school that we wanted to shag, atleast i did. She should not go to prison.
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Question is, why the **** would he rat her out?? dumbass!
A 14 year old does not have the mental maturity to have consensual sex with an adult. It would be very easy to confuse a kid of this age, especially if you're an attractive blonde whom just happens to be an authority figure. Sure, it's a wonderful dream for most kids as this is the stage in life where they are raging with hormones, but that doesn't negate the fact that they aren't mature. There is a reason why suffrage is set at 18 years of age.
Besides, how can you justify this action with a teenage boy and not a teenage girl? Are you implying that boys are more mature than girls at the age of 14? If it's not a maturity issue, what possible justification could exist?
Bottom line, Lafave broke the law. The law makes no exception for consensual sex with a minor, it's illegal, period. You let her slide, then there is a precedent for other cases, many which will involve older men with young girls. It's a slippery slope that we don't need to travel.
Last edited by Nuts; 07-22-2005 at 05:53 AM.
Agreed. An adult woman seducing a young man is playing on different insecurities and weaknesses in the boy, obviously, and yet the same repercusions are evident regardless of the gender roles. Just because the boy may be presumed to "want it" more, doesn't mean that the adult woman is not doing some major psychological harm in the formative years.Originally Posted by Gyno Rhino
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C'mon, like you would be able to resist saying to your friends "Dude! I just did it with Mrs. Lafave!".Originally Posted by ddzc
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First of all, where were all these teachers that are having sex with their students while I was going to school? At fourteen I would have loved to have sex with one of my hot teachers, especially that one. Hell, I still would. But you can't say that only males can be charged with statutory rape. The law has to be applied equally to everyone.
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CC, what if he had gotten HER pregnant? thats just as bad, it would be just as much his child as hers and would stress him out just as much. what if he wanted to have it and she aborted it to cover it up? i dont think he'd ever be normal after that.
Because a 14 year old girl can make the same decision that a 14 year old boy can.Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
If she wants it from a 30 year old, and gets it, we should then arrest the 30 year old man? But not vice-versa?
It's all stupid as hell.
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But what if the 14 year old who wanted it was a chick, and the 20 something a man?Originally Posted by pinky8713
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He'd be crucified. Plain and simple.Originally Posted by Gyno Rhino
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Originally Posted by Gyno Rhino
i agree.
and bullsh*t she didn't know right for wrong.
she needs to go to jail. i don't care how "pretty" she is.
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EXACTLY. This woman is scum and a total disgrace to the profession. Does she have a problem getting dates?Originally Posted by MM
I know if you're a young male, this sounds like a dream, but kids need more adults they can trust and depend on, not adults trying to use them...
I mean I got some hot teachers but Hes 14...Thats ****ed up. Pitiful on the teachers part, and depressing on the kids end too. Its just one hell of a ****ed up situation. Yes she should go to jail.
I went to high school with her and briefly dated her for about 2 weeks. She was definetly a little weird personality wise but gererally a sweet girl. I would never have thought she would have done something like that. In high school she was a little heavier and a real homebody.
"she is too pretty to go to jail" That is the one of the best things I have ever heard!! Do you think it would work for me if I went and banged some underage tart!!
No! would it ****. And it bloody well shouldnt either (and not just because I am fugly)!!
Underage is just that. Under. Age.
They should throw her pretty arse in jail with the other Peados!!
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Awesome. Was she the class whore or show signs of instability?Originally Posted by sublime99
Also got to go by the law on this one. Its a no brainer, not going to re-write law just because she is pretty. Its not like she lives in California or something.
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I don't get it? There's nothing wrong with this because he's a boy and wanted it--"he was going through puberty and every boy wants it" And if it were a girl that it's bad? Don't forget, girls go thru puberty, too.
I'm not condoning this whatsoever, but I'm just pointing out that if you think it's okay for the boy, than it would have to be okay for the girl.
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Yeah she should go to jail, but damn do I wish that would have happened to me as a kid.
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No she was pretty active academically but a homebody otherwise. I don't remember any issues with her being unstable mentally. We dated for a total of two weeks and then just kind of quit calling each other and i maybe saw her 3-4 times in the two weeks. I was a senior and she was junior, I do however regret never sleeping with her.
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