How to punch harder

**Jay-X** · 10-03-2005 07:51 AM

In italian amusing parks, there is a machine with a heavy bag hanging down from it. You have to throw a punch to the bag as hard as you can and it will go up against a sensor put in the machine. The sensor will determine how hard your punch was and will give you a score. It's really funny and my brother, my father, my uncle and I play this stuff every day when we're on holiday together. My brother always beats me (I have around 200 points, which is average, while my brother always goes above 280...) and he doesn't even lift (actually his bench press is around 50 lbs or so)... he just plays basketball all the time, and basketball does not stimulate arms' growth. I was wondering why he throws such hard punches and I'd like to know what exercises will allow me to beat him... how childish am I

**CiteCollegiale** · 10-03-2005 07:57 AM

big lats helps

**Anthony** · 10-03-2005 07:59 AM

Even though this isn't a boxing forum, there have been various threads on this subject. Type "punch harder" into the search and start reading.

**Bravo** · 10-03-2005 08:04 AM

Punch more often. I was just mentioning speed-strength(also known as explosiveness) in another thread. Your brother is able to apply his strength in a shorter amount of time, thus generating more force.

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 08:49 AM

watch ultimate fighter and you'll learn more then punch

i'm addicted

**Jay-X** · 10-03-2005 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by getfit

watch ultimate fighter and you'll learn more then punch

i'm addicted

you're addicted?! i keep downloading that stuff... I even put it in my Zire so that I can watch it while teachers speak during classes... who's more addicted, man?

anyway, i can't just throw myself against the heavy bag, head-lock it and hit him 20 times a-la vitor belfort

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 08:56 AM

hah i watched 4hrs sat night of UF i think it's on tonight at 11 or 9 not sure gotta check

**Wannabelean** · 10-03-2005 08:59 AM

I think it's on for a few hours tonight!! Knockouts first, then a few current matches and then the ultimate fighter show

**Canadian Crippler** · 10-03-2005 08:59 AM

f = ma

figure it out from there.

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Wannabelean

I think it's on for a few hours tonight!! Knockouts first, then a few current matches and then the ultimate fighter show

cool

this is something i'd love to do

**greathuskie** · 10-03-2005 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler

f = ma

figure it out from there.

force=mass x acceleration

i dont feel i need to explain any more then that

however this doesnt mean you HAVE to have huge arms to take a good swing at someone, just defenitely helps

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what would suck more, getting hit by a volkswagon or a semi? they are both going to do damage, but which will do more?

**HILL** · 10-03-2005 09:17 AM

technique may help

**Atrox Mortis** · 10-03-2005 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Wannabelean

I think it's on for a few hours tonight!! Knockouts first, then a few current matches and then the ultimate fighter show

Awesome! I really, really hope they replay some of the Gurgel/Von Flue fight from last week, as that fight was about 10 pounds of awesome in a 5 pound bag. (Edit: Wait, is it highlights from Ultimate Fighter, or general purpose UFC highlights?)

@Jay-X: That device sounds pretty cool, and it's definitely a good way to show the difference between strength and the ability to generate power. I'd say your best bet is to look at some different boxing or martial arts drills to learn how to improve your technique.

**Anthony** · 10-03-2005 09:32 AM

Times are Eastern...

7pm - UFC Unleashed (2-3 old UFC fights - not usually TUF fights)
8pm - Ultimate Knockouts (highlights)
9pm - UFC Fight Night 2 (live fights)
11pm - TUF2

Yeeeeeeeehaw!

**V!C $!ÑgH** · 10-03-2005 09:39 AM

in opinion, having a sick technique is better than strength when it comes to throwing a punch. You might be able to bench 150 kilo, but if you cant twist your hips correctly and swing your shoulders correctly, your punch wil be no good.
i used to do some boxing before, but due to using weights i never had good flexibility which always let me down.

**General Zod** · 10-03-2005 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by V!C $!ÑgH

in opinion, having a sick technique is better than strength when it comes to throwing a punch. You might be able to bench 150 kilo, but if you cant twist your hips correctly and swing your shoulders correctly, your punch wil be no good.

Exactly. Punching is all about weight shift. I've seen guys built like body builders who couldn't crack an egg, and guys who look like they've never seen the inside of a gym deliver devestating knock outs.

Most peope punch with thier arms. A properly thrown punch starts in the legs. It's why Ken Griffey Jr., as thin (relatively speaking) as he is, has hit so many HRs. Weight shift.

If you want to learn more about punching, study a quality martial art.

Greg

**AzBboy** · 10-03-2005 09:58 AM

I'm with v!c. I use to box, and we would never weight train at all. Secret to a powerful punch is not strength, look at those flyweight boxers they weigh like 130 pounds and can snap your neck with one blow. Its all in the hips/ shoulders, just putting all your weight into each punch, step forward and jerk your hips all while sending your arm flying. Strength may help, but is not key.

**waynis** · 10-03-2005 10:01 AM

proper technique is key. Then bag work, power/explosive type exercises and also good muscle balance/ flexibility in the muscles creating that punch.

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony

Times are Eastern...

7pm - UFC Unleashed (2-3 old UFC fights - not usually TUF fights)
8pm - Ultimate Knockouts (highlights)
9pm - UFC Fight Night 2 (live fights)
11pm - TUF2

Yeeeeeeeehaw!

**HardToSquat** · 10-03-2005 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AzBboy

I'm with v!c. I use to box, and we would never weight train at all. Secret to a powerful punch is not strength, look at those flyweight boxers they weigh like 130 pounds and can snap your neck with one blow. Its all in the hips/ shoulders, just putting all your weight into each punch, step forward and jerk your hips all while sending your arm flying. Strength may help, but is not key.

I also used to box and you hit it on the nail. It is all in the hips and shoulders and for that matter your whole body.

**Atrox Mortis** · 10-03-2005 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony

Times are Eastern...

7pm - UFC Unleashed (2-3 old UFC fights - not usually TUF fights)
8pm - Ultimate Knockouts (highlights)
9pm - UFC Fight Night 2 (live fights)
11pm - TUF2

Yeeeeeeeehaw!

No TUF highlights makes me a sad panda

Though really the Jorge/Jason, and Joe/Marcus fights were the only good fights so far this season. Meh, as soon as they start showing Randy Coture and Matt Hughes highlights, I'll forget all about the TUF fighters anyway

Originally Posted by waynis

proper technique is key. Then bag work, power/explosive type exercises and also good muscle balance/ flexibility in the muscles creating that punch.

This really should be written in 50 foot high neon letters on the side of a building somewhere.

I remember the first time I stepped into a dojang, and thought I'd destroy all the skinny kids in there. Sparring time rolled around, and boy was I wrong. I learned the hard way that upper body strength doesn't count for much compared to good body/hip motion

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 12:34 PM

yeah i enjoyed Joe/Marcus's fight, hands down to Joe he's a beast

**Anthony** · 10-03-2005 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Atrox Mortis

No TUF highlights makes me a sad panda

I think I remember seeing highlights of the Forest/Stephan fight, but not sure. Either way, you missed the TUF2 marathon on Saturday! They replayed every episode!

**getfit** · 10-03-2005 12:49 PM

Rashad also did well IMO.

**Atrox Mortis** · 10-03-2005 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony

I think I remember seeing highlights of the Forest/Stephan fight, but not sure. Either way, you missed the TUF2 marathon on Saturday! They replayed every episode!

I need to get me a TiVo, stat!

Also, we should probably start a UFC/TUF2 appreciation thread. I feel bad for derailing the OP's thread like this.

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