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The movie "Serenity"
Great movie, check it out! Even if you are not a sci-fi fan.
Last edited by Manveet; 10-04-2005 at 10:34 AM.
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I wrote a review in my journal. Contains a few spoilers--although that doesn't really matter since you've already seen it.
Originally Posted by Manveet
Last edited by Blood&Iron; 10-04-2005 at 10:37 AM.
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Also an interesting review from Orson Scott Card (the sci-fi author):
http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/e...30-extra.shtml
An excerpt...
It's great.
I'm not going to say it's the best science fiction movie, ever.
Oh, wait. Yes I am. .
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This is the kind of movie that I have always intended Ender's Game to be (though the plots are not at all similar).
And this is as good a movie as I always hoped Ender's Game would be.
And I'll tell you this right now: If Ender's Game can't be this kind of movie, and this good a movie, then I want it never to be made.
I'd rather just watch Serenity again.
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Just read the review, nice work. Originally Posted by Blood&Iron
I never had the chance to watch "Firefly" so I don't have any major qualms in regards to consistency and what not.
I definitely agree with the fact that "Serenity" is easily one of the best sci-films ever made. Makes the Star Wars movies look like crap (the newer ones).
This movie has a lot of cross-appeal imo. The "fanboys" will not be the only ones who will enjoy this movie. However, it won't do very well in the box office. The marketing has been very poor for this movie.
So please, go watch the movie people!"It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"
Richard Dawkins
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It is an awesome movie. Its been a long time since I've heard audience reactions like I did during that movie.
I loved Firefly. I want it back.
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So if my fiance hates sci-fi with a passion and refuses to watch star wars--you think I can get her to this one? How can I sell her on this?
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I just started on the TV show on DVD... the first few episodes were great, though not as good as BSG. Yes, I am a major geek.
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I think the same can be said of the series--although, Firefly is marginally more difficult to get into (Bit less action-y). Originally Posted by Manveet
Even the film, though, may be too intelligent for some. The dialogue is stylized, there's an actual emotional heft to much of the film, and there are some interesting ideas presented. All of which will probably turn off stupid people...and stupid people are about 90% of the population.
Film actually only had a 40 million dollar budget or so, I believe--which nothing nowadays.However, it won't do very well in the box office. The marketing has been very poor for this movie.
I think Universal has approached it more with the idea of generating groundswell via pre-screenings and such. I'd guess that might simply be because they didn't want to risk the money.Last edited by Blood&Iron; 10-04-2005 at 11:06 AM.
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I didn't even much care for the show for the first 3-4 episodes (They were shown in a different order when they originally aired than they are present on the DVD). Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
BSG is pretty damn entertaining. I personally find Firefly to be miles better--though, it's not as immediately appealing. It takes some time for it to work itself into your subconscious. I think several of the episodes are the best things to ever have graced television.Last edited by Blood&Iron; 10-04-2005 at 11:10 AM.
We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.
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Does she like drama? Does she like action? How about comedy? Serenity has every one of these in spades. Originally Posted by JustinASU
Read Orson Scott Card's review, which I linked to above. I think he sums things up best.Last edited by Blood&Iron; 10-04-2005 at 11:23 AM.
We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.
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The movie was phenomenal...easily the best scifi I've seen in years, or quite possibly ever. The Orson Scott Card review is nice to see. It's great to see a reputable scifi author giving serenity such high praise. Damn this movie was good.
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They had a huge campaign to promote the movie through blogger-sponsored screenings, which may be a first. The huge DVD sales are also the only reason the movie was made. Definately interesting mechanisms for hollywood. Originally Posted by Blood&Iron
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Yah, they had a big TiVo advertisement for awhile too.
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Does she like horsies? (More a draw for the show than the movie, but....) Originally Posted by JustinASU
Fantastic movie. Star Wars went in the direction Star Trek did -- too much politics, flatter and flatter characters. I don't give a good goran if anyone thinks otherwise.Last edited by Scott S; 10-04-2005 at 10:39 PM.
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To me it looked like a movie about a hot chick who kills people on a spaceship, so I didn't pay any attention. Now I've seen a number of libertarians who I generally enjoying reading talking about it as though it's something I should see, so I might give it a shot.
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If you weren't interested in a hot chick who kills people on a spaceship, well, geez, why not? Originally Posted by MM
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I typically do not like violent movies or whatnot. I typically do not like movies, actually. Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
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This libertarian enjoys it for the anti-authority bent, but Don't Take My Word For It! (tm) Originally Posted by MM
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ROFL! You go Lavar! Originally Posted by Scott S
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Damn good movie... even my girl liked it... she had no idea what the show was about, and is generally only a sci-fi fan when she knows she'll get sex after the movie.
I haven't been that entertained in a theater in a while. That's a lie. I haven't been that entertained by a movie for a while. Saw a few episodes of the show afterwards, and I'm impressed... I really do hope we get to see more of it, in some form or another. Solid sci-fi... I like what Orson scott card said, and I agree with it. If I had to make a science fiction/adventure movie, this is what it would look like."Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
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:withstupi Originally Posted by Belial
People who enjoy sci-fi movies will love it.
People who hate sci-fi movies will love it as well."It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"
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I was disapointed, don't get me wrong, it was an EXCELLENT movie, but after hearing Orson Scott Card (of whom I am a fanatic) compare it to what he wants from an Enders Game movie, I had higher expectations.
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People hate sci-fi? Blasphemy! Originally Posted by Manveet
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I went to see it based on the reviews I read here. Normally I would have passed the movie up. After watching it I can say that it was a pretty damn good movie. A definite 5 chop sticks out of five rating.
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Definitely watch the rest of the original series. In many ways, I think it's superior to the film (at least a number of the episodes like "Out of Gas" and "Objects in Space"). Bit more cerebral and character driven perhaps, but I find them superior for that reason. Originally Posted by Belial
Supposedly if the film makes $80 million (not sure if that's domestic alone), there'll be a sequel. Right now it's not looking like that'll happen, but keep in mind the tv show was cancelled, yet a movie still ended up being made. It was a slow burn process by which word spread of the show. Perhaps it'll be the same for the film. In the meantime, encourage friends to check it out while it's still in the theater. Might make a difference.
We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.
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