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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Question on dips

    I heard that if you do dips with more of an upright body position that it will work the triceps more and if you bend your upper-bdy fortward the chest will be worked more. Is this true?

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    Yes and no it depends proberly more on your hand placement. A closer grip keeping you elbows in is working the triceps were as a wider grip with you elbows out and your chest out is more chest based i believe
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    It's a combo of both - closer hands and a more upright position will emhpasize the triceps more than either a wider grip or dips w/ a forward lean. Regardless, however, dips will work triceps, anterior delts, and your pecs.

    Man I love weighted dips.

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    To a certain extent, yes. Both HILL and Pats Fan are correct.
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    Do most people do dips on chest or tricept days? The form I use for dips works my tricepts much more than my chest. I guess that good because there are much more ways to work chest than tricepts in my opinon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gator
    Do most people do dips on chest or tricept days? The form I use for dips works my tricepts much more than my chest. I guess that good because there are much more ways to work chest than tricepts in my opinon.
    Is English your first language?

    and yes, most people work their dips on chest or tricep days.

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    I do mine on arm day.

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    What the hell is a tricept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pats Fan
    What the hell is a tricept?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HILL
    Yes and no it depends proberly more on your hand placement. A closer grip keeping you elbows in is working the triceps were as a wider grip with you elbows out and your chest out is more chest based i believe
    I'm just being technical here, but how do you adjust your grip on dips? Hand placement is pretty consistant from brand to brand on dip stands. At least at the handful of gyms I've been to.

    I do see what you're getting at by keeping your elbows in, or letting them flair out. But that has no bearing on where your hands are at.
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    Stand there for a few minutes, then pace back and forth a lot, huff and puff, wait until everybody's looking. Approach the bar. Back off. Approach it again. Back off. Get some water. Chalk up. Approach the bar again. Then spray some more chalk around. Wait until people start losing interest. When nobody's looking, pick it a little off the floor, and slam it down. Jump up and yell "LIGHT WEIGHT BABY". Then give high fives all around. - Belial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr3mlin73
    To a certain extent, yes. Both HILL and Pats Fan are correct.
    To a certain extent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Nissen
    I'm just being technical here, but how do you adjust your grip on dips? Hand placement is pretty consistant from brand to brand on dip stands. At least at the handful of gyms I've been to.

    I do see what you're getting at by keeping your elbows in, or letting them flair out. But that has no bearing on where your hands are at.

    Tim - think of bench pressing - the closer the hands, the more the emphasis on the triceps, same concept with dips.

    You are correct that most dip bars/stations don't provide for varying grip widths - if your gym has dip bars that come out at an angle (V-shaped bars), then you can vary grip widths. IMO, however, elbow angle to the body, vs. angle of upper body provide plenty of variability.

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    Get some rings and do dips on those if you want a challenge. You won't be worried about peculiarities of hand placement.

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    Yes most dip bars i have seen do come out at a v shape getting wider as you move out allowing for the adjustment. however at my gym the machine type this is for assisted dips but you can move the leg bit out so their not assisted and the grip were your hands go can be moved out by flipping it round
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    Quote Originally Posted by HILL
    Yes most dip bars i have seen do come out at a v shape getting wider as you move out allowing for the adjustment. however at my gym the machine type this is for assisted dips but you can move the leg bit out so their not assisted and the grip were your hands go can be moved out by flipping it round

    Yup - I take the pin out of the assisted machine, put a 25 lb plate on the leg thing, which pushes it down to the ground. That way, with knees bent, I can do my weighted dips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pats Fan
    Tim - think of bench pressing - the closer the hands, the more the emphasis on the triceps, same concept with dips.
    I understand the principle of close grip bench vs. bench press .

    Quote Originally Posted by Pats Fan
    You are correct that most dip bars/stations don't provide for varying grip widths - if your gym has dip bars that come out at an angle (V-shaped bars), then you can vary grip widths. IMO, however, elbow angle to the body, vs. angle of upper body provide plenty of variability.
    Yes, I'm aware of v-dip stands. But you're still going to position yourself in a v-dip stand with your hands close to your body. People with wider builds are going to need grips at wider widths, which is the point of these stands. If you grip wide and away from your body, then you're chancing a shoulder injury. Hand placement should still be close to your body. They make some seated dip machines with adjustable grip settings for just that reason, to accomodate someone with a wider frame, who would obviously need a wider grip, only in relation to a person with a narrow frame.

    Geting back to HILL's point, he suggested flairing your elbows away from your body to work chest. That has no bearing on grip, only on what your elbows do as you come down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gator
    Do most people do dips on chest or tricept days? The form I use for dips works my tricepts much more than my chest. I guess that good because there are much more ways to work chest than tricepts in my opinon.
    I train chest and tris on the same day because you don't work one without working the other, as long as you're staying compound like you oughtta.

    To the OP- I don't think it really matters all that much which you work more, and really, the point of doing compounds like dips is that you can hit your chest and tris sufficiently with one exercise. Weighted dips really are a beautiful thing.
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