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    deadlift record?

    doesnt matter how big the guy was. whats the most ever deadlifter with or without straps. is it over 1000 pounds?

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    Magnussen did a little over 1000lbs not too long ago I believe. He's 22 and on some serious gear.
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    I thought Benedict Magnusson did 970 and didn't quite lock out a grand...

    edit: ...without straps, in competition of course. I have no idea what's been done with straps - strongman competitors can usually do much more, but it's usually with a shorter range of motion and sometimes with straps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield
    Magnussen did a little over 1000lbs not too long ago I believe. He's 22 and on some serious gear.

    He deadlifted ~970lbs... and what do steroids have anything to do with it? Like the rest of the rest of the elite level lifters aren't on steroids?

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    What does steroids have to do with it? He's 22. Hasn't had that long to build strength up. Never said the other elites weren't on steroids. Where'd you get that? I was making an observation.
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    I agree with Nick. I dislike all the negative attitude to steroids, but I also dislike it when people on this site jump down everyones throat defending them like they're family or something. He was just supplying some rather relevant information.
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    How relevant is it? I think it's pretty safe to say that most, if not all, 900+ DLs were done with some "assistance"...

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    Still impressive even if he was on teh roids. There are plenty of people who take roids, and most of them can't DL over 900+ lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    How relevant is it? I think it's pretty safe to say that most, if not all, 900+ DLs were done with some "assistance"...
    Does your post not prove the relevancy of this fact? Who's to say the original poster knew this information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    How relevant is it? I think it's pretty safe to say that most, if not all, 900+ DLs were done with some "assistance"...


    Since when is 'couldnt do it without it' not relevant? Not everyone is aware that most elite lifters use gear, and there is no problem with talking about it. What are you concerned about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    Does your post not prove the relevancy of this fact? Who's to say the original poster knew this information?
    Umm, No? I guess it's just plain commonsense to me that many of the greatest strength athletes use.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spencerjrus
    Since when is 'couldnt do it without it' not relevant? Not everyone is aware that most elite lifters use gear, and there is no problem with talking about it. What are you concerned about?
    I have no problem with it at all. But, if you make a point of saying that someone is on "serious gear", are you not singling him out from the crowd???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    I have no problem with it at all. But, if you make a point of saying that someone is on "serious gear", are you not singling him out from the crowd???
    What's the problem with that? It's a cold hard fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    What's the problem with that? It's a cold hard fact.
    What Sensei is trying to say is that all of the competitors have access to the same stuff, and most (if not all) are on it. If everyone is on a level playing field, who cares? There's no need to point it out, and it sounds like the person who first made the statement is trying to discredit the lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    What's the problem with that? It's a cold hard fact.
    the problem is the word "serious". this makes it sound like he is using far more than other elite athletes. this may be the case. But we do not know what he is on, and we do not know what other top athletes are on either.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by body
    the problem is the word "serious". this makes it sound like he is using far more than other elite athletes. this may be the case. But we do not know what he is on, and we do not know what other top athletes are on either.
    Nor does it matter. The guy pulled 970 lbs. Respect it for what it is. You all could be on 10 grams of test a week and never pull close to that. Get over yourselves.
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    That dude's a much bigger beast at 22 than most people could ever be, assisted or not. He's also the strongest deadlifter alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris
    What Sensei is trying to say is that all of the competitors have access to the same stuff, and most (if not all) are on it. If everyone is on a level playing field, who cares? There's no need to point it out, and it sounds like the person who first made the statement is trying to discredit the lift.
    Thank you. That is exactly what I was trying to say.

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    Jesus you know you people make the simplest things complicated. that being said. Not to jack this thread but anyone know the strongest squatter? I've heard John Benor (sp?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutz981
    Jesus you know you people make the simplest things complicated. that being said. Not to jack this thread but anyone know the strongest squatter? I've heard John Benor (sp?).
    No, people should say what they mean and then not bitch when people call them on it.

    John Bernor. He's definately a strong SOB.

    Brent Mikesell, Steve Goggins, Beau Moore, Jeff Lewis, et. al have all squatted 1100+ in competition.

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    None of your arguments change the fact that its worth mentioning, just for ****ing reference. I fail to understand how it detracts from the numbers. Why does everyone on this site get their god damn panties in a bunch about this subject?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    No, people should say what they mean and then not bitch when people call them on it.

    John Bernor. He's definately a strong SOB.

    Brent Mikesell, Steve Goggins, Beau Moore, Jeff Lewis, et. al have all squatted 1100+ in competition.
    How about a world record squat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    None of your arguments change the fact that its worth mentioning, just for ****ing reference. I fail to understand how it detracts from the numbers. Why does everyone on this site get their god damn panties in a bunch about this subject?
    Seems to me that you are more ruffled about this than anyone else... nevermind. Not worth it.
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    How about a world record squat?
    It depends on the federation and the equipment. edit: Here's Jeff Lewis' 1200 http://www.bodytechusa.com/images/Je...sSQ3_Small.swf
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    None of your arguments change the fact that its worth mentioning, just for ****ing reference. I fail to understand how it detracts from the numbers. Why does everyone on this site get their god damn panties in a bunch about this subject?
    Its the negativity and ignorance about the subject. Maybe its worth mentioning, maybe its not. You also didn't mention that he was wearing a deadlift suit, used chalk and ammonia tabs. You singled out the steriods. I can bet that there are tons of natural athletes below your weight class that lift more. Do the steriods help? You bet. Are they the determining factor in lifting heavy? Hell no. Its diet, dedication, and desire.

    I realize that the OP asked what the highest deadlift was regardless of equipment and in posting the number, it might have been relevent to post what was being used. There have been higher deadlifts done with straps. I believe Bolton has done over a 1000 with straps. I'd be happy to roll that across the floor or even get my hands on a bar big enough to hold that.

    Don't make it all out to be negative. Maybe its not what you want to do but there are others that make it their life's goal to get something done. On an even playing field, why does it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Seems to me that you are more ruffled about this than anyone else... nevermind.
    I'm ruffled because a lot of you guys flip out about stupid ****.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Not worth it.
    You're right.
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    You also didn't mention that he was wearing a deadlift suit, used chalk and ammonia tabs. You singled out the steriods.
    I did nothing of the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    I'm ruffled because a lot of you guys flip out about stupid ****.

    You're right.

    I did nothing of the sort.

    Most people were referring to Nick's post. His wording seemed as if he was pointing fingers at Magnusson specifically. It looked like he was insinuating that the gear had everything to do with it. Calm down.
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