Squats/DL on same day

[KingWilder]

Many of you have seen the routine that fortifiediron posted a little bit ago...I decided that I was going to try it, but due to the mixed feelings on doing squats and deadlifts on the same day I wasn't sure if I should do it or just go with a different routine. What do you guys think? Any suggestions to make lower days easier?

routine:
Week 1: 3x12
Week 2: 3x10
Week 3: 3x8
Week 4: 4x6
Week 5: 5x5
Week 6: 6x4

* Will do these reps on all lifts.
* Will repeat the cycle after you finish the 6th week.

Lower
Upper
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Lower
Upper
off
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Upper Day 1:
- Bench Press
- Row
- Military Press (standing)
- Pulldown

Lower Day 1:
- Deadlift
- Front Squat Squat
- Goodmorning
- Barbell Shrugs

Upper Day 2:
- Incline Bench
- Weighted Pull-ups
- DB Bench
- Row

Lower Day 2:
- Squats
- SLDL
- Reverse Hyper/or Dimel Deadlifts
- Dumbell Shrugs

Rest Periods- 45-120seconds between sets.

[Y0yo]

Interesting...I wouldn't mind knowing the same.

[muscleup]

I'm on week 3.
If you can get past week 1, you should be okay. :evillaugh
I altered the upper days a little.
I didn't change any lower lifts.

But I did move Lower Day1 to the end of the week because it messes you up, and I need 2 recovery days to follow it.

[KingWilder]

haha okay...I'll try it for a week and see if I need to switch Lower 1 and 2

[trasmi21]

Interesting...I wouldn't mind knowing the same.

Agreed.

[KingWilder]

bttt for inquiring minds

[Davidelmo]

I don't even do deadlifts on a leg day...

Is there no chance you could move it to "upper" instead?

Personally I wouldnt do deads and squats on the same day... too tiring!!

[trich daddy]

personally, i wouldn't have it any other way....

squats and DLs on the same day is king
tiring yes, but it'll make a man out of you

plus, I feel my hammies/glutes/erectors never recover in time for squats if I do deads on back day

and I do NOT like the feeling of 300 lbs on my back when my erectors are sore

[muscleup]

personally, i wouldn't have it any other way....

it'll make a man out of you

Nuff said.
Either you go in the gym and own this routine, or it will own you.
Cowboy up.

[Sensei]

...due to the mixed feelings on doing squats and deadlifts on the same day I wasn't sure if I should do it or just go with a different routine. What do you guys think? Any suggestions to make lower days easier?

Lower Day 1:
- Deadlift
- Front Squat Squat
- Goodmorning
- Barbell Shrugs

Lower Day 2:
- Squats
- SLDL
- Reverse Hyper/or Dimel Deadlifts
- Dumbell Shrugs

If it's too much for you, don't do both DL and GMs on Lower Day #1 - do one of them and alternate between them. Same thing w. SLDL and reverse hyper/dimel DLs on Lower Day #2.

[bloodninja]

Well I'm done with the first week. I can't walk.

Fortified Iron is my daddy.

[muscleup]

Well I'm done with the first week. I can't walk.

Fortified Iron is my daddy.

lol

[trasmi21]

I think if you do squats and deadlifts properly and bust your ass on them, you don't have enough in you to do the other one.

Not saying that you're not busting your ass or not doing them properly, it's just that maxing yourself out on both exercises in one day, well that's impressive.

[trich daddy]

why would you 'max yourself out' on both exercises???

and no, you're wrong. you can 'bust your ass' on either one and still have enough energy to bust your ass on sets of the other.

[trasmi21]

Yes, but I'd rather be completely fresh and exert all energy into one of your three most important exercises, rather than exert all energy into one and have a little left to do the other.

Why wouldn't you max yourself out on both excercises, are you going to conserve energy so you can do both of them? If so, then I think it may be a better idea to do them on seperate days so that you exert everything into one.

What am I wrong about? I never said that you couldn't bust ass on the second one, hopefully you're always busting ass. But can you do them properly and get the most out of it?

Just my opinion, I commend all of you that do this, that's a lot of hard work. But from my experience so far, I'd rather put everything I have into one of those excercises on a seperate day.

[muscleup]

I think if you do squats and deadlifts properly and bust your ass on them, you don't have enough in you to do the other one.

Not saying that you're not busting your ass or not doing them properly, it's just that maxing yourself out on both exercises in one day, well that's impressive.

If you never try it, you will never know what you are capable of.

When you talk about the "big 3" lifts, would you agree that those include: Back Squats, Conventional Deads, and BB Flat Bench? Notice all of which are on a seperate day from the other one. AND are completed first during the session they fall in.
Front squats are a variation of a back squat and can easily be done on the same day as a conventional dead if your core has enough stamina.
SLDL's can also be done fairly easy on the same day as a back squat if your core can take the heat.

[trasmi21]

Front squats are a variation of a back squat and can easily be done on the same day as a conventional dead if your core has enough stamina.
SLDL's can also be done fairly easy on the same day as a back squat if your core can take the heat.

Yeah, I think it's just a matter of how intense you do your Back Squats and Deadlifts.

[Paul Stagg]

My last DE workout

Squat: 12 sets of 2 squats @ 50% or so
Deadlift: 15 singles @ 60% or so
Good morning: 3x5 @ 225
HS shrug: 3x12 @ 2pps
45 degree back raise: 4x8 with a 45 pound plate
side bends: 3x8 with a 45 pound plate.

http://libertarianlifter.blogspot.co...e-1-day-3.html

[Vapour Trails]

I believe heavy squats and deadlifts on the same day is a recipe for an injury.

They both require a lot of concentration and energy. Your form will deteriorate if you perform one after the other increasing this likelihood.

Edit: I just noticed that the rest time is a max of 120 secs? You won't be lifting very heavy if that is the case.

[tigo]

Edit: I just noticed that the rest time is a max of 120 secs? You won't be lifting very heavy if that is the case.

i think thats the reason theyre both on the same day