Table Sugar vs. Complex Carbs

[Darcy Tucker]

Thanks guys for the debate. I always thought there was a simple answer but I guess not. I'm just a new personal trainer and I wanted to make sure I don't end up eating my words.

[Holto]

Thanks guys for the debate. I always thought there was a simple answer but I guess not. I'm just a new personal trainer and I wanted to make sure I don't end up eating my words.

There is a really simple answer.

The 1st Law of Thermodynamics: A Generalizaton of The Law of The Conservation of Energy


If you burn 2000 calories a day and you eat 1500 cals of cookies and milk your body is short 500 calories that it must burn for critical functions. Such as oxygenating and circulating your blood. The kinetic energy required by your lungs and heart come from chemical energy from both food and what is stored in our bodies.

If our body does not ingest the energy required to function over a given period of time it dips into stored energy. Energy stored as fat, glycogen, structural proteins ie: LBM, etc.

[gator]

(i'm in the process of trying to find some studies, i'll post some if i can find).

When your body releases insulin you can't burn fat or as much fat if you didn't have as much insulin in your blood stream correct? Therefor doesn't your body have less time to burn stored fat, i dont think your body just just burn more fat later on. From my understanding your body would rather burn off muscle than fat because fat is more usefull than muscle for survival it's much easier to burn off a lb of muscle than a lb of fat. hope you see where i'm going with this...lol

Also simple sugars have weaker chemical bonds than complex sugars, if i'm not mistaken, it would be a guess of mine that it would take more energy to break down the complex carbs then the simple carbs.


I'm not a science guy just throwing some stuff out there..

[Holto]

I'm not a science guy just throwing some stuff out there..

Have you done the reading required to understand the 1st law of thermodynamics and how it relates to gaining and losing weight?

Don't bother reading anything unti you have this covered.

Until you understand how the laws of physics GOVERN biological systems you will misundertand everything you read.

[RedSpikeyThing]

I started having flashbacks to my "Research Methods" class.....then the "Ho" and "Ha" came out and I screamed a little...

Seriously though, this is a good thread for people who don't know/understand the scientific method.

[Paladyr]

Back from the dead but it looks like I was on the right track thinking the type of foods you are eating do matter when cutting, it's not just total calories, although my explanation for why was off.

http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.c...-most-calories

[Behemoth]

http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.c...-most-calories

Different macros have different thermic effects when metabolized. This study says nothing of the specifics on how all three were controlled. Consider that fat calories are the most efficiently utilized it's zero surprise that "Researchers found that overweight people burned 350 more calories a day, on average, when they ate a low-carbohydrate diet, than when they ate a low-fat diet. "

[krazylarry]

I thought carb cals, sugar especially was broken down the most easy and used the least amount of cals to broken down, followed my fat, and last protein which used the most energy to be broken down and used. No?

[Behemoth]

Fat then carbs then protein. Wanna to say 2-3%, 6-8%, 20-30% respectively (estimated). Check lyles site/articles, should be able to find some more info

[Caino]

well im having a 5 pancake stack pwo today screw the complex carbs!! but my question is how much of these simple carbs will the body uptake pwo before it does start to get converted to fat?

[Travis Bell]

well im having a 5 pancake stack pwo today screw the complex carbs!! but my question is how much of these simple carbs will the body uptake pwo before it does start to get converted to fat?

Depends on how much your body needs to replenish. There isn't a set number

[Caino]

ah i see, yeah i think it would of been way over but i needed to indulge a bit (4 pancakes 3 scoop icream and hot fudge!) after a pretty heavy gslp session so there would of been some benifit but not all i guess


http://strengthvillain.com/forum/vie...hp?f=11&t=3398 this is my workings out seeing as therre is backround info on me