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Get ice on those shoulders and see a sports med doc!
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A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
Lifting Clips: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnnymnemonic2
Blog: http://squatrx.blogspot.com/
Yeah I get my work done their by Jack Taunton, and I know whats gonna happen anyways. He'll give me some rehab to do and send me for an MRI which will show up negative. So it's pretty much something I have to live with for the rest of my life; which can get better with no more shoulder pressing and most of all *sigh*, no more benching. Oh well, doesn't look like I'll get to take a crack at 600.Do you have a good sports med physio? I'll hook you up with the best of the best at Allan McGavin - I was able to avoid shoulder surgery working with him.
Sunday Sept. 24/06 - Chest/Biceps
Bench Press: 95x10 135x10 185x6 225x6x3sets
Wide Grip Bench: 175x8x3sets
DB Hammer Curls: 40x6 70x6 80x6 90x6
EZ Bar Curls: 120x6 145x6 170x3
Crunches: 45x12x3sets
All went good today, no pain at all.
Monday Sept. 25/06 - Legs
Squats: 135x5 225x3 275x3 315x3 365x3 405x2
Front Squats: 225x4
Leg Ext: 150x10x3sets
Std. Single Leg Curls: 70x10x3sets
Std. Calf Raises: 200x10x3sets
Crunches: 45x12x2sets-->started cramping on 3rd set, f**k it!
I decided to start squatting in my OL shoes again, they help me use more quads, and they really let me go deeper. I could barely walk home.
Last edited by TommyBoy; 09-25-2006 at 09:40 PM.
Tueday Sept. 26/06 - Extra Workout
Hill Sprints: 4x40m up a hill, roughly 15% incline
Sprints were very easy; however, legs were not nearly recovered. From now on I'm going to use my off days for rest only.
just read your log, strong dude! curls along with the squats bench and other lifts are impressive, height and weight?
2000 or bust
Thanks Stump! I'm 6'0" and right around 308 right now. As for my lifts, they're nowhere near where I want them to be right now. I'm trying to focus on raw brute strength right now.
big dude! same here, raw brute strength and size! f cut! haha, as of now at least.
2000 or bust
Good call man, I honestly don't see the point in cutting. I obviously won't be able to lift as heavy if i'm cutting, so there's no conceivable reason for me to cut. For me cutting is eating doritos only once per week![]()
solid past few sessions, those sprints don't look like fun though
Last edited by Sidior; 09-26-2006 at 09:10 PM.
PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
Meet PRs: Bench Only 525
Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers
Thanks Sid, yeah things feel pretty good. And those sprints weren't fun at all.
Wednesday Sept. 27/06 - Shoulders
Push Press: 95x5 135x5 185x5x3sets
Close Grip Bench: 135x5 185x5 225x5
1 Arm DB Laterals: 55x8 65x8 75x8
Seated Face Pulls: 40x10 80x10 120x10
Crunches on Ball: 60x15x3sets
Ok, it's official.......something is seriously wrong with my left shoulder. I felt it during my second set of push presses, to be honest....I heard a 'snap'. Being the stubborn freak of nature that I am, I completely blocked out the pain and finished the workout. Everything felt light and easy tonight. Now...just about 2 hours after the workout, I can barely raise my left arm. If you look at me standing relaxed, my right shoulder looks absolutely jacked, and it looks like I have no left shoulder at all. And of course, I've been icing the s**t out of it.
I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm gonna try and get a sports med appointment, and Sensei, I'll go through that list of shoulder rehab you wrote about. The bottom line is, this sucks. As soon as I take a break from powerlifting, I get injured. I'm tempted to start competing again just so I don't get anymore injuries.
Any tips would be much appreciated.
Oh, Tom, I thought I saw you doing a LOT of stretching.
I had to rehab my shoulder a year and a half ago - I didn't do ANY pushing movements for about six MONTHS.
It was maddening.
But you just watched me hit a PR on incline bench the other day. You CAN come back from this. You've got to learn the incredible restraint of patience. And that one is harder than what I watched you squat on Monday.
Yeah, restraint and patience are the hardest things for people who are motivated... and even harder for people who are older (who need MORE patience when it come to gains).Originally Posted by Built
I honestly thought about quitting PL after my last hamstring injury. The time, energy, and money involved in rehab just about did me in... I ended up buying a glute-ham bench and it was slow going. 7 months later, I'm in pretty good shape, but it's an ongoing issue.
Hang in there. See a doc. See what they suggest. Take a break. Ice. Get rest. Start stretching after some time off. Light weights. Gradually increase tempo and range of motion. Strengthen your weaknesses. etc, etc.... That's all you can do. PMA baby, PMA.... (positive mental attitude).
A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
Lifting Clips: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnnymnemonic2
Blog: http://squatrx.blogspot.com/
Tommy - just got through reading your journal. Despite everything that's going on you're still a very strong guy. Keep your spirits up and get some therapy for that shoulder. I have a lifting partner (also a member of the forum - RicktheDestroyer) who is dealing with rotator cuff injuries right now too. He is currently seeing a specialist and his shoulder is feeling a lot better. He might be able to give you more details.
BTW I find it very impressive that you've broken 300 lbs naturally! I'm about 245-250 at your same height, but I've dabbled a bit.
Good luck with the shoulder, and dont start thinking like a bodybuilder. You sound like a born powerlifter.
Last edited by JustinASU; 09-28-2006 at 10:56 AM.
Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out of your hippie haze
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again
Thanks for all the advice guys, I really appreciate it.
Built- There's no way in hell I'm gonna ditch pressing all together. It only hurts when I do shoulder presses, so those I will ditch. I can still rehab my shoulder while training my bench. My bench is a lost cause anyways, so I expect it to be very low.Oh, Tom, I thought I saw you doing a LOT of stretching.
I had to rehab my shoulder a year and a half ago - I didn't do ANY pushing movements for about six MONTHS.
It was maddening.
But you just watched me hit a PR on incline bench the other day. You CAN come back from this. You've got to learn the incredible restraint of patience. And that one is harder than what I watched you squat on Monday.
Good advice Sensei, I always keep a positive mental attitude. However, I'm not a big fan of taking a break. I'm just gonna work around my shoulder injury. There's no reason for my squat and deadlift to suffer, so I'll still train the s**t outta them. Like I said before, my bench sucks. So I'll still train it, just not quite as heavy as I used to.Hang in there. See a doc. See what they suggest. Take a break. Ice. Get rest. Start stretching after some time off. Light weights. Gradually increase tempo and range of motion. Strengthen your weaknesses. etc, etc.... That's all you can do. PMA baby, PMA.... (positive mental attitude).
Impressive?? Dude, if you took all the fat and muscle off my body, my bones alone would weight 250lbs!! It's nearly impossible for me to stay under 300lbs.BTW I find it very impressive that you've broken 300 lbs naturally! I'm about 245-250 at your same height, but I've dabbled a bit.
This is without a doubt the biggest compliment I've ever received. Thanks bro!Good luck with the shoulder, and dont start thinking like a bodybuilder. You sound like a born powerlifter.
Tommy is a powerlifter all the way through - just looking at him he was BORN for this sport. Trains like a pit-bull. Built like an ox. Solid and thick top to bottom. Aggressive as hell in there. Focussed. It's inspiring to watch. The only downside to all this is the impatience with injury - a trait I think we both share <rubs injured spine pensively>. Ultimately, life beats this one into us. The tough thing is letting yourself be smart enough to learn the lesson before it's too late. Once I get the result of my MRI, we'll see what kind of success I've had MYSELF with that one … <sigh>.
Thank you Built. Much respect.Tommy is a powerlifter all the way through - just looking at him he was BORN for this sport. Trains like a pit-bull. Built like an ox. Solid and thick top to bottom. Aggressive as hell in there. Focussed. It's inspiring to watch.
We'll see what we can do about our injuries. I'm sure we can get them to heal up in no time at all. *cough* *cough* *deca* *cough*The only downside to all this is the impatience with injury - a trait I think we both share <rubs injured spine pensively>. Ultimately, life beats this one into us. The tough thing is letting yourself be smart enough to learn the lesson before it's too late. Once I get the result of my MRI, we'll see what kind of success I've had MYSELF with that one … <sigh>.
I'll tell you right now, I will be competing somewhere in the next 6 months. Don't know where, dont' know when, but it will happen!
You can cough.
I do that kind of coughing and I grow a clenis.
strong shoulder workout tommy but i am sorry about your injury, those 75 x 8 laterals must of really finished er off nice, you need a long break from pressin dude!
2000 or bust
Clenis...nice. That's a new one.Originally Posted by Built
Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out of your hippie haze
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again
Stump: Thanks bro! The laterals were easy and pain free. The pressing is what did me in.
Built: You know I wouldn't do that stuff. Hell, I'm so affraid of needles I won't even get a flu shot!!
LOL - I know!
I just wanted to get in the clenis joke.
:kiss:
Thursday Sept. 28/06 - Back
Deadlifts: 135x5 225x3 315x3 365x1x8sets
Shrugs: 275x25x2sets 365x10
Wide Grip Chins: 3 sets of 10
Cable Rows: 210x10 250x10 290x10
45 degree Hypers: BWx10 45x8 90x8
Shoulder Rehab: a bunch of s**t with my mini band
Well, the workout went great.......until I did the rehab stuff. After shrugs, my whole shoulder joint was nice and warmed up, and the wide grip chins felt so good on it. Then I decided to do some rehab with a mini band (external rotations etc.) and I was in so much pain. I went through the entire workout with my shoulder feeling great, then the rehab stuff just destroyed it!!! WTF is up with that????????
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