I have found that for me the hardest rep of a heavy deadlift set (say on a set of 3) is the first rep, not necessarily the last. Getting the weight started seems like the hardest task. If you just tap the weight on the ground and immediately go up with the next rep, you get a rythem going. If you set the weight down and take a quick breath and go back up, it's like lifting the first rep again.
By the way I can't imagine that this is cheating since I'm pretty sure a heavy bar doesn't bounce much. Just a tip I found.
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Newton's third law? for every action is an equal and opposite reaction. You would be supprised how much a heavy bar bounces, just watch anybody deload a heavy clean.
Also, it should not about making the lift "easier", or looking for a short-cut.
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The first rep is the only true deadlift. The following reps with no pause are dynamic reps. You also do not take into account benefit of the stretch reflex.
Not that I find anything wrong with not pausing. Deads with no pause are great.
Last edited by HeavyBomber; 09-08-2006 at 09:40 PM.
I agree that it makes it easier but it is called "dead"lift for a reason. You're supposed to simulate lifting dead weight off the ground.
You need to deweight the weight to floor each rep. Bouncing off the ground is bad form.
So you're suggesting a pause and reset between each rep? That would certainly take awhile.
If I didn't pause between reps, I'd black out and collapse on the floor.
"The only easy day was yesterday."
If you cant pause, even briefly with the weight at 'dead' stop on the floor then you are using too much weight, as you say the 1st rep is the hardest, because this is the only one being done properly.
How do you figure?If you cant pause, even briefly with the weight at 'dead' stop on the floor then you are using too much weight
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Too many people think there is only one way to do an exercise. Don't state opinion as fact, makes you look narrowminded and ignorant.
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Or to put it another way, you dont want to lower the weight because it would hurt your ego.
If you dont stop at the bottom, then you are using momentum not muscle, the same as bouncig the bar off of your chest in bench press.
That and by the third 'bounce' your form is usually gone to hell.
Like they say around here...check your ego at the door. If you can DEAD lift it for one rep but can't do another, time to lighten it up.
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Break apart the damn term. DEAD-LIFT. Not MOMENTEM-LIFT. Pick up, put down, repeat. No bouncing, no tapping. If you can't pick it up as dead weight EVERY REP, you are doing too much weight. Get rid of the ego, or get out of the gym.
Seems natural to me to set it all the way back down at the end of every rep. I never even thought about doing it any other way.
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Well, just to make a point:
There is nothing wrong with momentum. For example: High pulls, cleans, jerks, clean and jerks...
Damn powerlifters using their momentum--psh.
Just keep your back arched and your body tight and do them any damn way you please.
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I would think using more control and less speed to raise the weights, then lower them to a stop on the ground would be more beneficial to the muscles targeted and also the stabilizers.
Also, wouldn't bouncing that much weight be harsh on the joints?
i second thatOriginally Posted by drew
Not necessarily. A constant motion could be beneficial for explosive movements. There are many movements where the lifter does not stop lifting.Originally Posted by DaoineSidhe
Yeah there are plenty of ways to deadlift! My favorite way to is to deadlift the weight off my chest while lying on a bench!Originally Posted by Nosaj
PS: Exercises have names for a reason. Without them we wouldn't be able to communcate. Therefore, these specifically defined exercises must conform to their definitions, otherwise they appear as mere verbiage that could mean anything.
Furthermore, a deadlift is "a lift in weightlifting in which the weight is lifted from the floor to the level of the hips and then lowered by controlled effort to the floor."
This is not my opinion, it is fact.
Originally Posted by The Zach
I think this is the second thread where iv seen you use dictionary reference for a deadlift. what are you trying to prove.
I have recently started resting the bar on the ground between each rep, and have found it makes the set more intense, and I feel I am getting more out of the movement. I did use the touch-and-go technique the OP is describing for a long time though, and had good results.
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Unless you're doing singles. Then you can avoid the bounce debate entirely.Originally Posted by puny_ectomorph
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