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Originally Posted by pwinsider.com
KURT ANGLE PREPARING FOR MMA DEBUT
by Mike Johnson @ 10:49:00 AM on 9/20/2006
In a surprising move given his health issues (but perhaps not so surprising, given his past drive athletically), former WWE champion Kurt Angle is preparing and gearing up to compete in the world of Mixed Martial Arts, according to a number of sources.
Angle, who was released by World Wrestling Entertainment, has not had any contact with the company since the week of his release, after the company released a text message noting that Angle was in a bad emotional state following the meeting that led to his release.
Angle's manager Dave Hawk has contacted a number of media outlets in recent days, touting that Angle would make his MMA debut in 2007 and was in discussions with a number of MMA groups. Angle recently conducted an interview with MMA magazine Real Fighter as well, pushing his interests in competing in MMA.
According to one source, one likely opponent may be former WWE Tough Enough champion Daniel Puder, who has been making noises about fighting Angle in UFC next year. Whether Puder, a shrewd self-promoter, is attempting to drum up interest in himself among MMA circles or there is legitimate interest in bringing the fight to UFC remains to be seen.
Puder made a name for himself among hardcore fans during a WWE Smackdown segment where he cinched Angle in a keylock and could have easily forced a tapout (or injured Angle) before WWE officials counted Puder's shoulders down. WWE never followed up on the incident (although the Kurt Angle open challenge was originally designed as an angle to capitalize on it) and Puder was discarded months a year after winning the Million Dollar Tough Enough competition and spending time in WWE developmental territories. Puder, who's contract with the California based MMA group Strike Force, recently expired, has a 3-0 MMA record. He's currently training with the American Kickboxing Academy, and weighing in at around 235, which is a heavyweight in UFC.
Another potential big name opponent that would create an immediately marketable fight could be another former WWE champion, Brock Lesnar, who is currently training with Royce Gracie for a debut with the HEROS MMA group in Japan. Lesnar and Angle had a memorable WWE feud in 2002, including headlining Wrestlemania in Seattle, Washington and a 60 Minute Iron Man match that aired on WWE Smackdown.
One possible setback to a "shoot" rematch of the Wrestlemania XIX main event would be worries that UFC (or another MMA group) create credibility issues by using "fake pro wrestlers" at a time where MMA is getting more and more legitimate sports coverage.
The flipside of that is that it's entirely possible that Angle's standing as one of the greatest amateur wrestlers of the modern era and a former Olympic gold medalist would overshadow those concerns.
There is also a major upside to Angle appearing in MMA circles, as the curiosity factor of such a high level pro wrestler could create great interest, ratings, and PPV buyrates, especially for Angle's first fight. Angle's potential debut within MMA would easily create major crossover interest among professional wrestling fans and give whatever MMA group he potentially fights for a chance to snare new fans, including those disenfranchised by current pro wrestling, for their sport.
The other major quandry would be Angle's health, given his past neck injuries, the muscle tears that led to the end of his WWE status, and the outside issues that helped lead to his WWE release. Whether someone as personally driven as Angle could compete in MMA circles today, at his age, as something more than a one time big event attraction, remains to be seen.
Angle had written at the end of his his 2002 autobiography It's True! It's True! that he intended to train and compete once more in the Olympics, but later opted not to due to his injuries suffered while working for World Wrestling Entertainment. He's had a number of additional injuries since that point.
Angle also had a number of personal issues that helped lead to his release, including a suspension during the launch of the ECW brand. To compete in MMA, Angle would need to prove he is physically able to compete.
Since his release from WWE this past August, Angle has easily become the hottest commodity in professional wrestling with every major and minor outlet wanting to test the field of doing business with him.
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I'd love to see angle and lesnar in mma. I think it would be a close match. Angle is so quick and powerful for his size but lesnar is just a fckin brute!!
the downfall of most wrestlers(college, not pro), is that they can take someone down fairly easily, then they just dont know what to do afterwards. they just hold them.
this could be interesting though.
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I don't understand this part of the article. It is making it sound like wrestling is real.Puder made a name for himself among hardcore fans during a WWE Smackdown segment where he cinched Angle in a keylock and could have easily forced a tapout (or injured Angle) before WWE officials counted Puder's shoulders down.
Can someone explain that to me?
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I think he'll do pretty well if he prepares intelligently for it.
Sakuraba et. al have done pretty well in MMA after starting in pro-wrestling...
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I don't think that Angle will ever do too much in MMA. If there's already worries about age and injuries, by the time he gets truly good at BJJ and kickboxing he will be done for.
Lesnar might be more interesting to watch ...
They also test for substances (ahem) in the UFC, so that may be a problem (or not)...
Also, he wont go to far.. He may beat a few wannabe's, but if he goes against some major players, he'll be beated to a pulp....
Just look at Josh Barnett against cro-cop in the last Pride... Mirko just crushed him until the end of the last round...
From a UFC standpoint, I'd think they'd want to bring alot of the wrestling (if you can call it that..LOL) fans over to the mma world, so they probably will line him up with some ringers for a few matches to get the audience...
Would be fun to watch though....
Peace out..
Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez
Puder and Angle had a MMA style match on Smackdown about 2 years ago and Puder almost made Angle tap, until Angle rolled over and pinned him. It was for "Tough Enough" and the wrestlers had to try and take Angle down for REAL!!! and Puder the only MMA guy in "Tough Enough" almost did so.
Last edited by Mr. Kool; 09-21-2006 at 11:19 AM.
That was cro cop's night. Not much Barnett could have done. I'm still reeling from how badly he beat silva. That guy got the beating of his career.Just look at Josh Barnett against cro-cop in the last Pride... Mirko just crushed him until the end of the last round...![]()
Angle and Lesnar would bring a lot of publicity to the MMA but that's about it. They can't compete with the top tier fighters that are out there.
Once you introduce the strikes (kicks as well), its a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME....
If they make it a pure grappling event, then maybe...
Peace out...
Dammit, UFC is turning into a big damn circus. If they pick him up, it's going to turn into the WWE.
Fuck, fight, or hold the light.
He won't make it far in MMA.
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How heavy is he? I'd put money that the majority of the welterweights would destroy him.
Fuck, fight, or hold the light.
I googled him and his 'business' website came up...LOL..
There's some goofy letter about him withering down to 220, but now hes a 'healthy' 240 again... (natty of course...)....
Yeh, I'd love to see someone smaller like lidell, crocop or gomi crush him...
Peace out...
I dont know why everyone is so quick to count him out.
For everyone laughing at how fake pro wrestling is: I ask you to attend a pro wrestling school and tell everyone there how easy it will be to "fake" fighting.
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Agreed. I think Angle, if he could get over his injuries, he might do alright. It's not like the guy was a couch potato or something. He was an Olympic wrestler. It wont be that hard to add some striking and grappling skills. He wouldn't be great but I think he could pull off being a GnPer like most of the other wrestlers that go into MMA.Originally Posted by MrWebb78
I think Lesner is definitely young enough to pull it off. Apparently he's been training with Royce Gracie and Pat Miletich.
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