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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    working shoulders after chest

    Do any of you guys work your shoulders the day after you work your chest? Do you guys feel like it's harder to do them the day after chest workouts or do you guys just choose not to do shoulders after a day of working chests.
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    yeah usually i just rest em cuz they get a good workout w/chest...but go ahead shouldnt hurt!

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    I wouldn't recommend it, for best bodybuilding purposes, in my opinion, it should be chest, back, shoulders....not chest, shoulders etc.

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    I do chest and shoulders on the same day westside. Makes mili press a whole lot harder...

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    My routine is Push/Pull/Lower. So whenever I push is when I work my chest/shoulders/arms... I go with compound movements first, and it will always be chest before shoulders. If your shoulders are lagging you could change it up, so that your 'fresh' when you work on your delts. Just a possibility.
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    I train shoulders on the same day---
    my split looks something like this
    w/o 1 chest-delts-triceps
    w/o2 legs-back-biceps

    i alternate these two workouts with an off day inbetween them

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    I do a short chest routine and a big shoulder. Works altogether, in the same mix.
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    For shoulders I'd recommend either doing them with chest, or if they are on a seperate day, give them at least one day of recovery first.

    If your shoulders are in a state of recovery from your chest workout, you aren't really helping them out hitting them again the next day.

    Granted they are a smaller muscle group, so should recover quicker than your chest, so one day is probably good enough.
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    I do them right after. They're already partially fatigued from bench press. If your shoulders are lagging you could always wait a day and hit them seperately.

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    Yes, working chest and shoulders together in the same day is good...

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    Sometimes I do shoulders on chest day, and other weeks I give shoulders/oly their own day but keep it at least 3 days away from a chest workout.
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    or hit the front delts on chest day, and lateral/rear delts on your back/pull day.

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    I generally avoid working shoulders and chest on the same day - pushing movements hit both groups hard, and are a lot of strain on the rotator cuff. If you work chest on one day, and delts a few days later, you'll hit delts with chest anyway, and chest with delts - more frequent hits, but not as much work on either day means you'll have good training volume, but spread out over a few days so you'll have time to recover between hits. This may not only be better from an injury-prevention standpoint, but also better for growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPietro
    For shoulders I'd recommend either doing them with chest, or if they are on a seperate day, give them at least one day of recovery first.

    If your shoulders are in a state of recovery from your chest workout, you aren't really helping them out hitting them again the next day.

    Granted they are a smaller muscle group, so should recover quicker than your chest, so one day is probably good enough.
    what do you think about legs and shoulders on, say, tuesday morning, then chest and triceps on thursday morning? squatting stetches the hell out of my delts, trying to get that narrow reach-back on the bar, but i never gave much thought to benching so soon after that.

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    I do an upper and lower split...so I do chest and shoulders on the same day
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    Elwood, I don't believe a static stretch will be the equivalent of a training session, but in any case, looks like you have a 48 hours anyway, which should be more than enough for delts to recover, even if you'd trained them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPietro
    Elwood, I don't believe a static stretch will be the equivalent of a training session, but in any case, looks like you have a 48 hours anyway, which should be more than enough for delts to recover, even if you'd trained them.
    lol...i do my heavy military press on legs day, too. i was just saying, to try to grip back where i'm supposed to for squats is killer on my delts. it's getting better, though, which cant be bad for flexibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    I generally avoid working shoulders and chest on the same day - pushing movements hit both groups hard, and are a lot of strain on the rotator cuff. If you work chest on one day, and delts a few days later, you'll hit delts with chest anyway, and chest with delts - more frequent hits, but not as much work on either day means you'll have good training volume, but spread out over a few days so you'll have time to recover between hits. This may not only be better from an injury-prevention standpoint, but also better for growth.

    Almost exactly what i was thinking...

    I give my shoulders a couple of days rest after chest, otherwise they just aren't giving me the potential i want when doing presses..

    IMO, Chest, Back, Delts, Legs....

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    I don't do bodybuilding exclusively anymore, I'm doing powerlifting now, which I love, but when I was training bodybuilding style, I was training like this: chest and triceps, back and biceps, delts and traps, legs and calves...This gave me great results, later I felt working out 4 times a week was overtraining for me, so I cut down to 2 times a week.

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