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A huge and thick upper back is the hallmark of the alpha strength athlete. Only those with the fortitude and will to train with the requisite intensity will achieve the kind of upper back that literally intimidates and inspires awe in all who see it.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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Forearm pain after benching

Last week I was attempting a max bench PR of 335, I warmed up well and already did 315x2 I failed on the 335 attempt but I did something to my forearm and it feels like i over exerted some muscle in my forearm and bruised it on the inside, I can still use my hand fine, but I tried doing some 135lbs deadlifts yesterday and it almost paralyzed my arm in pain. So no push or pull exercises til it heals, so only squats 3 days a week yay!

So is it better to keep heat on this type of injury or ice? When I put pressure on my forearm, and warmth it feels like I can use it to do anything, and there is no swelling. Just for clarification, my arm isn't crippled, only crippled lifting anything over about 45 lbs. and I can poke my forearm with my finger and there is 1 specific point where it hurts really bad, everything else feels normal. I will be seeing my doc on friday for a general physical, I am going to ask him about it too.
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You may have either A) strained your forearm badly by bending your wrist too far back while benching or B) actually stress fractured your forearm from continued bending of your wrist

Ice Ice and more ice. I'm talking sticking your whole arm up to your elbow in an ice bath for as long as you can tolerate it at a time. I had that happen last year and the ice baths were the only thing that fixed it

To prevent the injury in the future, wrap your wrists nice and tight and then don't allow them to bend back
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:27 PM   #3
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oh and Ibuprofen too
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damn! I didn't think it could be that serious. I hope its not a fractured forearm. I will ice it once I get home. How long was your recovery time? Assuming its not a broken bone, should I do any light exercises to help the healing process?
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Get an MRI just to be safe. I got a hairline fracture and it took me a year to fully recover and get back to heavy training. Cuz I didnt get an MRI in the first place. I just got an x ray. x-rays dont always show hairline fractures.

If not then Ice and Ibuprofen.
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yeah I usually get MRIs anyway, I got an xray back in high school on my ankle and the technician told me they almost ran out of adjustment to increase the strength of the xray due to my bone density. Though I don't know what the difference would be besides knowing or not knowing. I won't be benching or pulling until it causes no discomfort anyway.
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You may have either A) strained your forearm badly by bending your wrist too far back while benching or B) actually stress fractured your forearm from continued bending of your wrist

Ice Ice and more ice. I'm talking sticking your whole arm up to your elbow in an ice bath for as long as you can tolerate it at a time. I had that happen last year and the ice baths were the only thing that fixed it

To prevent the injury in the future, wrap your wrists nice and tight and then don't allow them to bend back
Travis, have you ever had bad elbow pain?

What do you recommend to fix sore elbows?

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The bruising has me curious. I immediately thought stress fracture. No matter what, get it checked out. Lilfting with a stress fracture could seriously put you at risk for a worse injury. Hopefully it's nothing. Best of luck.
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Travis, have you ever had bad elbow pain?

What do you recommend to fix sore elbows?

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I'm not Trav, but ice and high rep extensor work has helped my elbows immensely.
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Vinnie, what do you do when you have bad elbow pain?

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The bruising has me curious. I immediately thought stress fracture. No matter what, get it checked out. Lilfting with a stress fracture could seriously put you at risk for a worse injury. Hopefully it's nothing. Best of luck.
sigh....I hope its nothing too, its so weird, I honestly didn't think it could be such a huge issue (aka broken bone) but I will definitely get it checked out. I tried bending my forearm in half at the point of pain to see if it would hurt more from the bone separating and I had no pain, and when I push on my forearm at the site of pain it is actually directly within the muscle, a fair distance from the bone, it feels like the muscle bundle connected to the tendon that is right on my wrist directly under my pinkie. Friday I'll know for sure grr!

Edit: perhaps right where the tendon connects to the muscle fibers.
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Vinnie, what do you do when you have bad elbow pain?

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It's like a pinpoint pain right near the tip of the elbow. What I mean by bad is that it was excruciating when I benched.
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sigh....I hope its nothing too, its so weird, I honestly didn't think it could be such a huge issue (aka broken bone) but I will definitely get it checked out. I tried bending my forearm in half at the point of pain to see if it would hurt more from the bone separating and I had no pain, and when I push on my forearm at the site of pain it is actually directly within the muscle, a fair distance from the bone, it feels like the muscle bundle connected to the tendon that is right on my wrist directly under my pinkie. Friday I'll know for sure grr!

Edit: perhaps right where the tendon connects to the muscle fibers.
Stress fractures aren't complete breaks in the bone.

It's tons of micro cracks in the bone

The next step though is a complete break during a bench session. I've seen it happen in person and its stomach churning sick
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Hopefully its something simple..........

For tennis elbow I have used hex holds in the past and they take my elbow pains 100% away. Im not sure what it does exactly but I dont need to know how a fuel injector works either to drive to work. I use 30's for 3 sets of 30 every now and then and it works like a charm.

Hope it heels up for you ASAP
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Stress fractures aren't complete breaks in the bone.

It's tons of micro cracks in the bone

The next step though is a complete break during a bench session. I've seen it happen in person and its stomach churning sick
Yup. The bone basically "pops" like shattered glass. The worst of those I've ever seen wasn't human, but was a horse. That was nasty. Lots and lots of blood on the floor.
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Yup. The bone basically "pops" like shattered glass. The worst of those I've ever seen wasn't human, but was a horse. That was nasty. Lots and lots of blood on the floor.
Thats exactly what I pictured when Travis mentioned it. I will definitely be mentioning my injury this friday while the doc is fondling the gems.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to essentially have my forearm explode while I try to hold 300+ lbs over my face.
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Doc said a pulled muscle or tear and to just take it easy. He did mention weighing 274.8 lbs was a little much regardless of how much weight I can move and I need to start running again. So we split the difference of my old weight and I need to drop down to about 250 and get my bp down from 130/90 to more like 120/60 like it used to be. So more motivation to cut. I wouldn't mind competing in the 242 class one day. Back to light benching for me.
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Get a different dr
Totally agree.

Your doc sounds like the typical doctor. See a sports specialist if possible.

The only way for him to tell if it's a stress fracture is by a bone scan.
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I just re-read this back again, you asked a doctor who was giving you a physical? That doesn't even really count as going to the doctor.

Again, go see the sports specialist and have them look at your forearm
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Yeah that was my first thought too but I like him lol. I will look around for sports medicine docs this weekend the other thing that bugged me is he was inferring I gained 75 lbs from eating fast food which kind of pissed me off. He even said regardless of my body composition being almost 300 lbs isn't healthy for anyone and I completely disagree.
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I would have stopped liking him about the time he said fast food is bad
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I just re-read this back again, you asked a doctor who was giving you a physical? That doesn't even really count as going to the doctor.

Again, go see the sports specialist and have them look at your forearm
just re-read this again. yes sir!
A sports doc probably has a better grasp on the effect of weight gain as it pertains to an athlete anyway. My doctor kind of sounded like a recording talking about diabetes and joint problems and **** like that.
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