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Building a Monster Upper Back

A huge and thick upper back is the hallmark of the alpha strength athlete. Only those with the fortitude and will to train with the requisite intensity will achieve the kind of upper back that literally intimidates and inspires awe in all who see it.

If you truly want the biggest and strongest back possible, it is necessary to combine the best of both the powerlifting and bodybuilding worlds!

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Old 10-09-2009, 02:28 PM   #1
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adaptogen N , anyone try this?

hi guys,

was wondering if anyone has treid this supplement (adaptogen N) i came across it on the net and its sposed to be good for training improving lefting gains and recovery and allso helps with mass

has anyone tryed this and if so with kind were the reults you got for it?is it worth a go?
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:44 PM   #2
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It's a test booster. If you do a search on "prohormones" you will find these generally don't get very positive reviews from this site.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:50 PM   #3
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I have never heard of it.

Is it made by a reputable company?
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:36 PM   #4
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Try a gallon of milk, and a lb of ground meat a day first.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:57 AM   #5
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It's a test booster. If you do a search on "prohormones" you will find these generally don't get very positive reviews from this site.
Test boosters are completely different than prohormones for the record tho...
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:16 AM   #6
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I've yet to see any compelling evidence that these testosterone "boosters" have any tangible benefit for a young, healthy trainee. I'd be willing to bet this stuff isn't cheap either. Your money would be better spent on food, protein powder, or even creatine.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:20 AM   #7
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hi guys i found it on this website im sure its a test booster to

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Test boosters are completely different than prohormones for the record tho...
They are, but for some reason the maker of this company has marketed it as a prohormone.

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hi guys i found it on this website im sure its a test booster to
I looked into this product a bit and it is not going to be worthwhile for you.

If you are interested in supplements that will help you to build muscle then a high quality protein and creatine will be your best option. Not all proteins and creatine products are created equal and I would recommend starting off with "creapure" creatine monohydrate ($14.50 for 3 month supply) and Nitrean protein shakes (high quality protein blend, picked by Men's Health as #1 protein in 2008 and 2009).

Natural testosterone booster products will have little to no effect and very poor return on investment.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:07 AM   #9
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hi guys,

was wondering if anyone has treid this supplement (adaptogen N) i came across it on the net and its sposed to be good for training improving lefting gains and recovery and allso helps with mass

has anyone tryed this and if so with kind were the reults you got for it?is it worth a go?
I've tried it and yes, it works.

Specifically, I ran both blood test and saliva tests for testosterone. It boosted my test 55% in exactly 27 days. I got stronger on it too. The most pronounced effect is on workload capacity. You can do more work in less time and do it more frequently.

The Trib, Longjax and DHEA combine to elevate both test and free test. What is under-rated IMO, is the Suma extract in this product. I've never seen a 25:1 extract of Suma and as far as I know that's 5x the strength of the nearest competitor. The melatonin does tend to give deep, restful sleep too.

This isn't a pro-hormone per say, but it does deliver the goods. And I've used them all: Tribestan, Tribex, Fuzu, bulk trib/fenugreek, Longifolia 100:1, Divanyll, etc..

You can fudge a lot of things but you cannot fudge blood work.

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And yeah, I just joined. But if you look at some of the other forums, I've been on them since 1999 speaking to my experience with this product. There are other effective test boosters. In the interest of fairness, here they are:

- ActivaTe Extreme
- Formestane
- Testofen
- ATD
- 6 oxo

None of them though, meausure up to Adaptogen N in my experience.

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I've tried it and yes, it works.

Specifically, I ran both blood test and saliva tests for testosterone. It boosted my test 55% in exactly 27 days. I got stronger on it too. The most pronounced effect is on workload capacity. You can do more work in less time and do it more frequently.

The Trib, Longjax and DHEA combine to elevate both test and free test. What is under-rated IMO, is the Suma extract in this product. I've never seen a 25:1 extract of Suma and as far as I know that's 5x the strength of the nearest competitor. The melatonin does tend to give deep, restful sleep too.

This isn't a pro-hormone per say, but it does deliver the goods. And I've used them all: Tribestan, Tribex, Fuzu, bulk trib/fenugreek, Longifolia 100:1, Divanyll, etc..

You can fudge a lot of things but you cannot fudge blood work.

And yeah, I just joined. But if you look at some of the other forums, I've been on them since 1999 speaking to my experience with this product. There are other effective test boosters. In the interest of fairness, here they are:

- ActivaTe Extreme
- Formestane
- Testofen
- ATD
- 6 oxo

None of them though, meausure up to Adaptogen N in my experience.
That is an interesting testimonial and looks very similar to the one posted by Rob Regish on the MASS website (company that sells this product).

It looks like the testimonial on the website was from 2003, so have you been using this product for the past six years? Have you been able to make any additional gains or performed any additional lab tests to verify the effectiveness?

I would think that in a PCT circumstance it is possible for any type of product to elevate testosterone levels since you have a low starting point and your body naturally wants to bounce back. The 27 day timeline is a bit short but not implausible.

Do you happen to have any additional information on your trial with the product? (actual test results, write up on dietary/training changes, bodyweight changes, specific strength increases, etc.) **You cannot link to sales/forums sites here but feel free to PM me as I would like to take a look at it.
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That is an interesting testimonial and looks very similar to the one posted by Rob Regish on the MASS website (company that sells this product).

Absolutely. And yes, that is me.

I submitted my results to MASS after the results were in (first trial was circa 1996 and blood test was utilized). Note: MASS had no idea I was doing this at the time. Subsequently asked to write an article for their newsletter and I agreed to have the article posted on MASS's website. No problem in doing so as I have great regard for products that work!



It looks like the testimonial on the website was from 2003, so have you been using this product for the past six years? Have you been able to make any additional gains or performed any additional lab tests to verify the effectiveness?

On and off since 1996, yes sir. Second objective test was done in 2003and saliva test via home test kit/ZRT Labs was utlized. I have made exceptional gains since then (muscle and strength, although to be fair I don't attribute all of it to this product). I don't think anyone can objectively say that. I do think it helps more and more as I age.

I have not performed additional lab test since then, although I may shortly as the formula has once again been upgraded.



I would think that in a PCT circumstance it is possible for any type of product to elevate testosterone levels since you have a low starting point and your body naturally wants to bounce back. The 27 day timeline is a bit short but not implausible.

Agree. As I mentioned in the article though, effects went well beyond just Test increase. That kind of increase in just 27 days though, was surprising. I only wish I re-tested 30 days later to see if increases were ongoing/linear.

Do you happen to have any additional information on your trial with the product? (actual test results, write up on dietary/training changes, bodyweight changes, specific strength increases, etc.) **You cannot link to sales/forums sites here but feel free to PM me as I would like to take a look at it.
I will have to scratch around for my actual labs. Perhaps I will ask MASS if they kept a copy.

The first time I took Adaptogen N (1996 I was 26 and observed a roughly 30%Test increase. Test done via blood draw) I was utilizing Bill Star's 5 x 5 training, which was a constant at the time. Because I was dieting, I had 12.25 pounds of fat loss. Despite that, my squat increased from 480 pounds to 500.

Second time around (33 yrs old, the one with a 55% increase, via saliva testing) I was eating maintenance calories (3,300k/day) and utilizing a linear periodization workout for both squats and bench press. I had run this prior and know for a fact the best I squeezed out of it was +5% on my lifts in about 8 weeks. With Adaptogen N, I got a full 10% on these lifts and did it in just under 7 weeks (could work out more frequently).

Again, I don't claim it was entirely responsible for all of this. However, I've used many a test booster and this has worked the best for me. And no, I don't work for MASS or get a penny for any product sales, etc.. I do occassionally get some free product to test. Some have worked out, some haven't. To his credit, the owner always listens to my/other customer's feedback.

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