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A huge and thick upper back is the hallmark of the alpha strength athlete. Only those with the fortitude and will to train with the requisite intensity will achieve the kind of upper back that literally intimidates and inspires awe in all who see it.

If you truly want the biggest and strongest back possible, it is necessary to combine the best of both the powerlifting and bodybuilding worlds!

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:37 PM   #1
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taking tren xtreme without pct

Hi im currently taking tren extreme..and I was wondering what would happen if I didn't take a pct after my cycle...would my gains go away or would I experience more sides?
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:38 PM   #2
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do a search, but in short that would be a bad idea
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:08 AM   #3
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Your gaines could go away AND you will experience some more sides... Hair loss, Kidney problems, Gyno...

You should of been taking estorgen blockers and you should have Nolva in your possition and a PCT planned out.

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:39 AM   #4
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You won't have problems when you quit using a product that doesn't do much in the first place.

You shouldn't have wasted your money on that crap in the first place. It's a slightly modified 19-nor androstendione. Moderately anabolic prohormone when taken in sufficient dosages, of which tren-xtreme is not.

So don't sweat the lack of PCT, the severity of your rebound will be similar to the actual results- unremarkable. Only you might have slightly more trouble jerking yourself off than the supp company that sold you the garbage did.
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So don't sweat the lack of PCT, the severity of your rebound will be similar to the actual results- unremarkable. Only you might have slightly more trouble jerking yourself off than the supp company that sold you the garbage did.
hahahahaha that's awesome.
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You won't have problems when you quit using a product that doesn't do much in the first place.

You shouldn't have wasted your money on that crap in the first place. It's a slightly modified 19-nor androstendione. Moderately anabolic prohormone when taken in sufficient dosages, of which tren-xtreme is not.

So don't sweat the lack of PCT, the severity of your rebound will be similar to the actual results- unremarkable. Only you might have slightly more trouble jerking yourself off than the supp company that sold you the garbage did.
I thought Tren Xtreme was similar to M1t
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:53 AM   #7
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DEFINETLY RUN A PCT!!!!

i just got off a cycle of tren extreme and tt-40,
i did 8 week total of tren, for the first 4 weeks i only ran tren 3 caps/day,then for the next 4 weeks i added tt-40 by american cellular labs to the tren, then for the pct i ran estro extreme for 2 weeks combined with milk thisle and some tribulas, and saw awesome gains !! i was benching 295 and my goal was to hit 3 plates after the 4 weeks of tren i got my bench to 315 for 3 reps!! after the whole 8 weeks i got my body weight from 215 to 229, lowerd body fat from 16% to 14% and got my bench to 325 for 2 reps !! i didnt experence any side effects at all (no gyno,acne ect..) i would highly recomend this product but definetly run a pct
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:05 PM   #8
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u should run a pct
oh also if u experience any chest pain, dizzines, headache its ur blood pressure if u want to bring it down without taking any pills just eat foods that are high in pottasium also reduce the fat in ur diet

drink skim milk, orange juice or ur just do some research on foods high in pottasium
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:42 AM   #9
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how long hve you been taking without a pct
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:14 PM   #10
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how long hve you been taking without a pct
i think he was just asking wat would happen if u stop n dont pct.
im taking tren too n weds. i start my pct im gonna b using Novedex XT
i only took tren for half a cycle n i got good results even tho im not cut or anything my bench went up from 235-260 in less than 2 weeks
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i think he was just asking wat would happen if u stop n dont pct.
im taking tren too n weds. i start my pct im gonna b using Novedex XT
i only took tren for half a cycle n i got good results even tho im not cut or anything my bench went up from 235-260 in less than 2 weeks
Are you taking tren as in Trenbolone or tren as in the prohormone Tren xtream? I find it frigtning that people here dont know the diffrence and use the words interchangabley.

I would use Nolvadex and not Novedex XT
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Old 05-25-2008, 01:19 PM   #12
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Are you taking tren as in Trenbolone or tren as in the prohormone Tren xtream? I find it frigtning that people here dont know the diffrence and use the words interchangabley.

I would use Nolvadex and not Novedex XT
I would also add
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rite now im taking xtreme tren as the prohormone(pills not injecting)
so for pct Nolvadex not novedex xt. wats the difference between the 2 cuz i cant find nolvadex online
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:14 PM   #13
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:15 PM   #14
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you don't really need nolva
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:03 PM   #15
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well im only doing half a cycle 2weeks n i gotta kno which one would b better if Nolvadex or Novedex Xt cuz i gotta order it today so that it can b here by weds.
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Nolva is definatly better, just a little overkill is all
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:27 PM   #17
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oh ok cuz its hard to find online i try looking for it n found it on site but since i only took 45 pills for 15days i think that im gonna go with the novedex xt
oh i dont think that my pct would be here by weds. due that tom is a holiday oh since i run out of pills on thuesday night n if my novedex isnt here by weds. wat would happen if i dont that nothing that day
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not a whole lot you can do, just wait til it comes in and go from there
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Old 05-25-2008, 08:09 PM   #19
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oh ok cuz i gotta have a friend or it for me kno i lost my damn credit card im pissed off lol but w/e
anyways my friend took just 45 pills like me n he doent wanna pct n i told him he has to so that his test lv goes up. he ask me wat happens if u dont pct
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i got one quick question. ok im getting a cold rite now would it b bad if i take some niquil while im taking tren

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oh ok cuz its hard to find online i try looking for it n found it on site but since i only took 45 pills for 15days i think that im gonna go with the novedex xt
oh i dont think that my pct would be here by weds. due that tom is a holiday oh since i run out of pills on thuesday night n if my novedex isnt here by weds. wat would happen if i dont that nothing that day
Nolva is a much better product at combating Gyno.

This is why you should have your PCT in hand before starting anykind of prohormone or AAS cycle.
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i got one quick question. ok im getting a cold rite now would it b bad if i take some niquil while im taking tren
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This thread delivers wow. I have never seen so many ******s post in one thread.
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This thread delivers wow. I have never seen so many ******s post in one thread.
Well contribue in a positve way...

Do you not need PCT after using tren xtreame? Most people suggest PCT after a prohormone cycle on other boards.

Whats so ****** in this thread?
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Belial hit the nail on the head, Tren Xtreme will not shut you down like a real aas cycle. I wouldn't be to worried about PCT.

Anyone doing a prohormone cycle is ******ed. In my opinion, Sorry to offend.
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