Glutamine and Creatine... - Wanna Be Big Bodybuilding and Weightlifting Forums

Haaji Dont Surf · 04-26-2006, 06:10 PM

Your thoughts? What does each do? Someone is telling me I should start taking 'em both.

Davidelmo · 04-26-2006, 06:33 PM

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Creatine - increase in muscle endurance, also causes a little initial weight gain (water moving into cells). Did nothing for me.. some people are non-responders

Glutamine - an amino acid with several roles in the body.. basically over-hyped, over-marketed and probably not worth the money.

Seriously though, search... there's a sticky about creatine in this forum and there have been a ton of threads about glutamine too.

El Kelio · 05-03-2006, 05:45 PM

Basically, creatine gives inflate your muscles with water retention, so you don't look flat and glutamine promotes recovery. They are not cheap, but you will never know if they work until you try them.
But remember, always is better quality food than supplements.

Bam · 05-03-2006, 05:59 PM

since ive started creatine ive had a lot of nice comments about my arms from other guys/girls and im lifting like 10-15 pounds more since then it really helped me =)

Unreal · 05-03-2006, 06:11 PM

Creatine=good. Search as there is more threads on it then anything else.

Glutamine, well you get tons of it already if you eat enough protein. There is no need to supplement. This has also been covered to death if you care to search.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN · 05-03-2006, 06:28 PM

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mikey4402 · 05-03-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by El Kelio

Basically, creatine gives inflate your muscles with water retention, so you don't look flat and glutamine promotes recovery. They are not cheap, but you will never know if they work until you try them.
But remember, always is better quality food than supplements.

?? creatine is cheap unless you fall in marketing hype. a bottle of creatine monohydrate will run you about 11bucks.

edit: to the OP you been around awhile you should know better and seach these type of questions

Slim Schaedle · 05-04-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by El Kelio

Basically, creatine gives inflate your muscles with water retention, so you don't look flat and glutamine promotes recovery. They are not cheap, but you will never know if they work until you try them.
But remember, always is better quality food than supplements.

Creatine's MAIN function is the conversion to phosphocreatine in order to produce more ATP through substrate level phosphorylation (ATP loses phosphate, form ADP, combines with phosphocreatine to form more ATP)

It does increase intracelluar water levels but this is not its main function as an amino acid formed in the body or purchased over the counter.

Progress · 05-04-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle

Creatine's MAIN function is the conversion to phosphocreatine in order to produce more ATP through substrate level phosphorylation (ATP loses phosphate, form ADP, combines with phosphocreatine to form more ATP)

It does increase intracelluar water levels but this is not its main function as an amino acid formed in the body or purchased over the counter.

Ah, yes, that clears it up! JK

But converted to laymans, this is what I've understood as well. The water retention is simply a side effect. I've heard someone say that creatine is a placebo because if makes you think you're getting stronger because your muscles get bigger from the water, not actually muscle size. In the end, the muscles will only grow if you eat and the creatine aids in strength/endurance during training.

El Kelio · 05-04-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle

Creatine's MAIN function is the conversion to phosphocreatine in order to produce more ATP through substrate level phosphorylation (ATP loses phosphate, form ADP, combines with phosphocreatine to form more ATP)

It does increase intracelluar water levels but this is not its main function as an amino acid formed in the body or purchased over the counter.

Totally agree, thank you for the quote. And by the way, creatine is not expensive. For me, it's worth its price.

Holto · 05-04-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Progress

The water retention is simply a side effect.

Exaclty.

The primary effect is saturating the muscle cells with ENERGY.

malkore · 05-04-2006, 12:12 PM

Agreed. Creatine's purpose is to make energy use in the muscles more efficient and effective.
When someone claims creatine suddenly allowe dthem to lift 15lbs more...its not so much the creatine directly, but that the increase creatine levels in the body are allowing the lifter to take FULL USE of his muscles.

Think of it like a fuel additive for your car's gas tank. You're just bumping up octane a little bit, and getting more optimal performance.

Progress · 05-04-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by malkore

Think of it like a fuel additive for your car's gas tank. You're just bumping up octane a little bit, and getting more optimal performance.

Especially after you advance your timing 2 degrees BTDC. :evillaugh

04-26-2006, 06:10 PM	#1
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Unreal Former Fatass Join Date: May 2005 Location: SLC,UT Posts: 5,442	Creatine=good. Search as there is more threads on it then anything else. Glutamine, well you get tons of it already if you eat enough protein. There is no need to supplement. This has also been covered to death if you care to search. __________________ Nick V

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04-26-2006, 06:33 PM	#2
Davidelmo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,899	Search Creatine - increase in muscle endurance, also causes a little initial weight gain (water moving into cells). Did nothing for me.. some people are non-responders Glutamine - an amino acid with several roles in the body.. basically over-hyped, over-marketed and probably not worth the money. Seriously though, search... there's a sticky about creatine in this forum and there have been a ton of threads about glutamine too.

05-03-2006, 05:45 PM	#3
El Kelio Focus on your goals Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Thank you Chicago, back to Mexico Posts: 418	Basically, creatine gives inflate your muscles with water retention, so you don't look flat and glutamine promotes recovery. They are not cheap, but you will never know if they work until you try them. But remember, always is better quality food than supplements.

05-04-2006, 12:12 PM	#12
malkore Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,384	Agreed. Creatine's purpose is to make energy use in the muscles more efficient and effective. When someone claims creatine suddenly allowe dthem to lift 15lbs more...its not so much the creatine directly, but that the increase creatine levels in the body are allowing the lifter to take FULL USE of his muscles. Think of it like a fuel additive for your car's gas tank. You're just bumping up octane a little bit, and getting more optimal performance.