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Building a Monster Upper Back

A huge and thick upper back is the hallmark of the alpha strength athlete. Only those with the fortitude and will to train with the requisite intensity will achieve the kind of upper back that literally intimidates and inspires awe in all who see it.

If you truly want the biggest and strongest back possible, it is necessary to combine the best of both the powerlifting and bodybuilding worlds!

Author: Christopher Mason Added: November 11th, 2009
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Old 04-30-2006, 06:48 PM   #1
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No2 Or Pump Tech

Guys, If You Had To Choose Between Pump Tech Or No2 Which Would Be The Best Choice?
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Old 04-30-2006, 07:42 PM   #2
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:03 PM   #3
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I would choose food and heavy iron.
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:27 PM   #4
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Is "keep your money" a choice here?
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:53 PM   #5
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N02 is one of the most ridiculously priced supplements ever.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...nt&btnG=Search
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:56 PM   #6
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I Would Choose The Right Forum To Ask This Question.

Wow, typing every word starting with a capital letter is really difficult.. why do it?
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Old 05-01-2006, 01:55 AM   #7
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Is "keep your money" a choice here?
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:59 AM   #8
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i say save a little cash and buy no-explode. no2 sucked for me, and i didn't even have to pay for it; it was given to me. no-explode on the other hand, that's worth my money (buying online ofcourse).
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:47 AM   #9
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I would choose food and heavy iron.
my thoughts exactly.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:15 AM   #10
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my NoXplode has been sitting half full on my refigerator for the past 3 months.

Waste of cash.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:22 AM   #11
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its only a waste of cash if its sitting on your refrigerator not getting used

i love no-xplode, it makes me feel so good, i love the energy and pumps
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Old 05-01-2006, 01:30 PM   #12
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I Would Choose The Right Forum To Ask This Question.

Wow, typing every word starting with a capital letter is really difficult.. why do it?
I'm SuRpRiSeD wE hAvEn'T sEeN pEoPlE tYpE lIkE tHiS yEt.

Seriously though, as others have said, neither of those are a particularly good use of your money.
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Old 05-03-2006, 11:56 PM   #13
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i agree w/ what everone else says -- both are redicously pricey for such a small effect, and if you're just training, you'll have better spent your money on food.

HOWEVER -- i would recommend pump tech if you were competing. pump-tech kept me looking pumped all the time, and my pump i got in the gym was even bigger. of course the only thing being pumped all the time does is inflate your ego and drain your wallet.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:25 AM   #14
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no explode for me was nothing special. oout of this wolrd pumps and made me hyper, put i can get hyper on my own and work harder at the gym and get the pumps, but never really benifited my lifting. but each to there own.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:08 AM   #15
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i agree w/ what everone else says -- both are redicously pricey for such a small effect, and if you're just training, you'll have better spent your money on food.

HOWEVER -- i would recommend pump tech if you were competing. pump-tech kept me looking pumped all the time, and my pump i got in the gym was even bigger. of course the only thing being pumped all the time does is inflate your ego and drain your wallet.
Are you saying pump is important for pre-contest training, or just specifically on the day of comp?
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:04 PM   #16
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umm dont get NO2, get nitrix or no explode, or both
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:07 PM   #17
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I'd save 75% of my cashe and just buy a bottle of Arginine.

i.e. NO2 products are all kinda worthless and should be skipped in favor of food and proper training, which will give you real gains, instead of fake ones.
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:55 PM   #18
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Are you saying pump is important for pre-contest training, or just specifically on the day of comp?
well obviously its important for the day of the comp, but you'd have to take it long enough during the pre-contest stage for it to be at its full effect by competition day.

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i guess because of the temporary pump/size effects, if one has enough money, pump-tech is not a bad idea as an ego/confidence booster. good for those who have become discouraged, and need a short pick me up. its kinda like they get a chance to temporarily see what they personally CAN become, its an incentive to gain that look w/o temporary supplements.

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So...he shouldn't waste his money on one thing, but waste it on another?
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Take Viagra, it has NO in it and. . . well. . . there are other benefits.
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None of these supplements or drugs have NO "IN" them.
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How long do you keep a pump while using this Pump-Tech?
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:56 PM   #23
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None of these supplements or drugs have NO "IN" them.
I stand corrected, I did not think I would get called on a joke. Scarz is correct in that Viagra does not have NO in it, it turns off the conversion of cGMP to GMP in the following pathway.

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