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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
    Unremarkable Questor's Avatar
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    Looking for constructive criticism of my workout

    Hi, been a while since I posted something like this. I've been lifting for a year now, and I'm taking the day to review my methods.

    I am 168 lbs bulking.

    My goals are even development and functional strength. I'm neither a power lifter nor body builder - I just like moving heavy objects.

    All sets are five reps. As heavy as I can do at five reps.

    Here's the workout:

    Day 1
    Deadlifts [3 or 4 sets]
    Leg Press [5 sets]
    Weighted Dips [5 sets]
    Incline DB Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Military Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Shoulder Press [3 sets]
    Calf Raises [3 sets]

    Day 2
    Squats [3 sets]
    Seated Leg Curls [5 sets]
    Chinups [5 sets]
    Lat Pulldowns [3 or 4 sets]
    DB Bent Over Rows [4 or 5 sets]
    Preacher Curlz [5 sets]

    Day 3
    Flat BB Bench Press [5 sets]
    Incline Smith Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Chest Press [3 sets]
    Skull Crushers [3 or 4 sets]
    Tbar Rows [5 sets]
    Left Arm DB Curlz (catching up left arm) [3 or 4 sets]
    High Pulley Lateral Extensions (correcting posture) [3 or 4 sets]

    You can find current pics of me in:
    http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=100411

    Thanks,
    Quest
    Last edited by Questor; 08-02-2007 at 12:50 PM.

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    If you care about functional strength, do crossfit. I thought I was functional until I tried it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Hi, been a while since I posted something like this. I've been lifting for a year now, and I'm taking the day to review my methods.

    I am 168 lbs bulking.

    My goals are even development and functional strength. I'm neither a power lifter nor body builder - I just like moving heavy objects.

    All sets are five reps. As heavy as I can do at five reps.

    Here's the workout:

    Day 1
    Deadlifts [3 or 4 sets]
    Leg Press [5 sets]
    Weighted Dips [5 sets]
    Incline DB Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Military Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Shoulder Press [3 sets]
    Calf Raises [3 sets]

    Day 2
    Squats [3 sets]
    Seated Leg Curls [5 sets]
    Chinups [5 sets]
    Lat Pulldowns [3 or 4 sets]
    DB Bent Over Rows [4 or 5 sets]
    Preacher Curlz [5 sets]

    Day 3
    Flat BB Bench Press [5 sets]
    Incline Smith Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Chest Press [3 sets]
    Skull Crushers [3 or 4 sets]
    Tbar Rows [5 sets]
    Left Arm DB Curlz (catching up left arm) [3 or 4 sets]
    High Pulley Lateral Extensions (correcting posture) [3 or 4 sets]

    You can find current pics of me in:
    http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=100411

    Thanks,
    Quest
    If you're natty I would consider this overtraining. How long do these workouts take you to complete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Day 1
    Deadlifts [3 or 4 sets]
    Leg Press [5 sets]
    Weighted Dips [5 sets]
    Incline DB Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Military Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Shoulder Press [3 sets]
    Calf Raises [3 sets]

    Day 2
    Squats [3 sets]
    Seated Leg Curls [5 sets]
    Chinups [5 sets]
    Lat Pulldowns [3 or 4 sets]
    DB Bent Over Rows [4 or 5 sets]
    Preacher Curlz [5 sets]

    Day 3
    Flat BB Bench Press [5 sets]
    Incline Smith Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Chest Press [3 sets]
    Skull Crushers [3 or 4 sets]
    Tbar Rows [5 sets]
    Left Arm DB Curlz (catching up left arm) [3 or 4 sets]
    High Pulley Lateral Extensions (correcting posture) [3 or 4 sets]
    i think there is too much volume, focus more energy on the bigger more compound lifts. I bolded some preliminary ideas
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    I've been doing the above workout minus the leg curls, left arm db curls, and skull crushers for about two months now, and the workout runs me about 1.5 hours. I am natural.

    As you see it's a three day split, and I take my weekends off. I've noticed that when I alternate on/off days for two or more weeks (without two consecutive days off) I start to feel cns drain. I ensure now that I get my weekends off.

    I also deload every eight weeks.

    So perhaps adding the leg curls, left arm db curls, and skull crushers is not a good idea.

    As far as crossfit goes, I don't doubt that. But it's not quite my cup of tea.
    Last edited by Questor; 08-02-2007 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    I've been doing the above workout minus the leg curls, left arm db curls, and skull crushers for about two months now, and the workout runs me about 1.5 hours. I am natural.

    As you see it's a three day split, and I take my weekends off. I've noticed that when I alternate on/off days for two or more weeks (without two consecutive days off) I start to feel cns drain. I ensure now that I get my weekends off.

    So perhaps adding the leg curls, left arm db curls, and skull crushers is not a good idea.

    As far as crossfit goes, I don't doubt that. But it's not quite my cup of tea.

    1.5 hours of heayy lifting per sesison is overkill. I would shorten that down to 30-45 mins max and focus on heavy compound lifts. Good luck. You're off to a solid start based on your pics. Don't spend too much time in the gym though.

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    Look into the BGB routine. I'm working one and have found it to be an excellent workout regime and works the body pretty evenly throughout.
    Lumiel's BGB Weightlifting Journal

    32 y/o, 6' tall, 205 lbs

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    I highlight what I would do. Keep in mind I don't consider myself an expert, just a kamikaze lifter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Hi, been a while since I posted something like this. I've been lifting for a year now, and I'm taking the day to review my methods.

    I am 168 lbs bulking.

    My goals are even development and functional strength. I'm neither a power lifter nor body builder - I just like moving heavy objects.

    All sets are five reps. As heavy as I can do at five reps.

    Here's the workout:

    Day 1
    Deadlifts [3 or 4 sets] Although I would drop the last couple in reps and increase the plates!
    Leg Press [5 sets] I don't mix deadlifts with leg presses EVER!
    Weighted Dips [5 sets]
    Incline DB Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Military Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Shoulder Press [3 sets]
    Calf Raises [3 sets]

    Day 2
    Squats [3 sets]
    Seated Leg Curls [5 sets]
    Chinups [5 sets]
    Lat Pulldowns [3 or 4 sets] Did you copy me up to this point for your day 2?
    DB Bent Over Rows [4 or 5 sets]
    Preacher Curlz [5 sets]

    Day 3
    Flat BB Bench Press [5 sets]
    Incline Smith Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Chest Press [3 sets]
    Skull Crushers [3 or 4 sets]
    Tbar Rows [5 sets]
    Left Arm DB Curlz (catching up left arm) [3 or 4 sets] WTF!?
    High Pulley Lateral Extensions (correcting posture) [3 or 4 sets]

    You can find current pics of me in:
    http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=100411

    Thanks,
    Quest
    Solid workout although there are some weird transitions - considering that is your exact order.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

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    Thank you Superman, I'm starting to see a lower volume, higher intensity workout take shape.

    I do have some strange transitions. The basic flow of my workout was put together a while back when I wanted to hit most body parts twice a week. That made for some strange setups.

    And as for the left arm db curls, hehe, I measured my left arm and it's .5" smaller than my right. I figured I'd do some isolation work for a few months to catch it up.
    Last edited by Questor; 08-02-2007 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Hi, been a while since I posted something like this. I've been lifting for a year now, and I'm taking the day to review my methods.

    I am 168 lbs bulking.

    My goals are even development and functional strength. I'm neither a power lifter nor body builder - I just like moving heavy objects.

    All sets are five reps. As heavy as I can do at five reps.

    Here's the workout:

    Day 1
    Deadlifts [3 or 4 sets]
    Leg Press [5 sets] Drop this
    Weighted Dips [5 sets]
    Incline DB Press [3 or 4 sets] Drop this
    Military Press [3 or 4 sets]
    Machine Shoulder Press [3 sets] Drop this
    Calf Raises [3 sets]

    Day 2
    Squats [3 sets]
    Seated Leg Curls [5 sets] Drop this
    Chinups [5 sets]
    Lat Pulldowns [3 or 4 sets] Drop this
    DB Bent Over Rows [4 or 5 sets] Drop this
    Preacher Curlz [5 sets]

    Day 3
    Flat BB Bench Press [5 sets]
    Incline Smith Press [3 or 4 sets] Do one or two sets of Incline DB's
    Machine Chest Press [3 sets] Drop this
    Skull Crushers [3 or 4 sets] 1 or 2 sets is probably fine
    Tbar Rows [5 sets]
    Left Arm DB Curlz (catching up left arm) [3 or 4 sets]
    High Pulley Lateral Extensions (correcting posture) [3 or 4 sets]

    You can find current pics of me in:
    http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=100411

    Thanks,
    Quest
    I would add some kind of legs into the third day. Maybe SLDL's and Lunges, 3-4sets. I really don't think you need any arm work really. When doing a three day a week full body those arms get hit every day. Also I see no reason to do one arm curls, at all. If you plan on doing curls just use dumbells the left will catch up.
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    Why not just hit the good old 5x5's? You close enough. I did that last year for 3 months and put on a pretty clan 20lbs. And its good fun, heavy always is. And as far as functionality is concerned compounds do everything and maybe a little sport. I played rugby at the same time. Best I've ever felt.
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    Dude... wow... i'm drunk. Flabbagasted at your choice of decision. Should i call you in 30 min when we are en route, come, oaks are for fun.

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