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    Deads Advice - Improve start speed

    Hey all, I've been told by two people that I need to improve my initial jolt on my deads. I'm going wide stance / somewhat narrow grip.

    Any drills which will help?


    Current thoughts:
    Do speed day on deads 1x per week, with sets of 8, 5, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1...just to practice form.

    Do deads off 6 inch boards.

    ...basically, do a simplified version of westside, starting at 60% of my max, working up 10% each week.
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    speed pulling, maybe some olympic lifting. I'd use doubles for the speed pulls though.
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    Speed Deads (6-10 sets of 1)
    Elevated Deads (2-6 inches)
    Good Mornings (will build your posterior chain leading to better off-the-floor strength)

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    Cleans and snatches are another good lift if your looking to improve barspeed off the floor.
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    "I'm going wide stance / somewhat narrow grip."

    As in Sumo or conventional deads?
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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Please for the love of God do not pull off of 6" blocks sumo! I think I just got a slight tear in my hammies from the very thought of doing them.


    How about getting tighter and pulling faster? Are you fast on lighter weights and slow on heavy? Slow all the time? I pull the bar with the same force whether it's 135 or 505. Make sure your starting position is good and work on pulling every rep as fast as you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    Please for the love of God do not pull off of 6" blocks sumo! I think I just got a slight tear in my hammies from the very thought of doing them.


    How about getting tighter and pulling faster? Are you fast on lighter weights and slow on heavy? Slow all the time? I pull the bar with the same force whether it's 135 or 505. Make sure your starting position is good and work on pulling every rep as fast as you can.
    OOPS lol. I pull sumo on platform deads.

    I know I didnt make this thread but I am interested in the answers aswell. I pull slow with heavier weights and a little faster with light weights, although it is still abit slow. Explosive lifts like cleans and snatches should help with my explosive strength off the floor right?
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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detard View Post
    OOPS lol. I pull sumo on platform deads.

    I know I didnt make this thread but I am interested in the answers aswell. I pull slow with heavier weights and a little faster with light weights, although it is still abit slow. Explosive lifts like cleans and snatches should help with my explosive strength off the floor right?
    If I did cleans or snatches anyone who has a clue of OL would cringe. I have tremendous bar speed off the floor on deadlifts. I think doing the OL lifts to gain speed off the floor will only really translate to better speed off the floor in the OL lifts IMO. I think the starting position on those lifts and a powerlifting deadlift(particularly sumo) are much different.
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    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
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    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    i found these articles and hopefully it'll help ya out:
    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/sumo_deadlift.htm
    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/sumo.htm


    theres a lot of great articles on sumo deadlifts on that site.
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    Thanks all. This is some great information to get me started.
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