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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Chin-ups stronger than Pull-ups?

    I am up to 35 lbs weighted chin-ups (palms facing towards each other) and progressing well every week but my pull-ups (palms facing away) haven't been gaining much...i'm still doing BW for those.

    Right now I do them on the same day, but alternate which ones i do first every week. Here is what it looks like:

    - Chins 5x5
    - Shoulder exercise
    - Pull-Ups 3x8
    - Rest of shoulder routine...

    Then the following week i do pull-ups first...

    Are there any other exercises that will help out with my pull-ups?

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    work on your back and they will get stronger

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    Palms facing eachother is not a chinup. Did you mean palms facing toward you? Ive always found chinups to be somewhat easier because it involves more bicep into play. Theres really a lot of factors. None of them you should be worrying about. Just keep trying to progress. As long as you can do BW, youve got the foundation
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    You're probably just fatigued by doing the 5*5 earlier in the workout. They both many of the same muscles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Duderino View Post
    Are there any other exercises that will help out with my pull-ups?
    More Pull-ups.

    Sorry to be blunt, but its the truth.
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    Negatives will help (where you go slowly on the way down). Iso holds as well.
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    You won't increase in strength in those exercises unless your doing them, or working on the stabilizers itself.
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    chins are always easier than pullups.

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    hows the progress coming, duderino?

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    keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHolmes View Post
    keep up the good work!
    Dude, You've posted this exact same phrase in multiple threads... thats pretty sad.

    To the OP... back assistance stuff like Rows should help increase your strength, if you arent already doing them.
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    Start with pullups every week. The hammer grip chins you are describing use a lot of bicep. I wouldn't bother doing two types of pullup/chin-up in the same workout.
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    ^^

    yeah, just maybe switch between pull ups and chin ups each week or so
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    Negatives help quite a bit.

    And unilateral movements that isolate the lats too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam MacKinnon View Post
    More Pull-ups.

    Sorry to be blunt, but its the truth.
    And the truth shall allow you to do more pullups.

    Reminds me of a footbal coach's line to me, if you want to lift heavier weights, lift heavy weights...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Negatives help quite a bit.

    And unilateral movements that isolate the lats too.
    Definitely negatives, and iso holds as another person said. When I was more intensive on training I did this and the results were great.

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