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    What happened? - Horrible Headache after workout

    I was doing CGBP for my last set of 5 reps...I was inhaling deep on the negative, and breathing out the positive (both through my mouth). I didn't struggle too much until the last rep, and I had a spotter assisting me on the last rep.

    I got off the bench and stood up and had a horrible headache (a weird one) and got nautious. I proceeded with my workout, and it was just kinda "there" in the back of my head and around my eyes. Kept throbbing in and out. I proceeded for the next hour with my workout (at my normal weights/reps). I'm now home and feel pretty decent after a shower, and don't really feel the headache too much anymore but I still do a feel it a little bit.

    What happened?

    Also I've had a clear MRI about 4-5 months ago, of my head, and I've had a EIH in the past from leg press. This felt a little different though. Not like a debilitating headache just a really weird nauseating one.

    It's been 2 days now still same headache fading in and out around my head, and my eyes.

    Thanks, in advance.

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    Exercise-induced headache. They're not all the same.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    Exercise-induced headache. They're not all the same.
    I still feel it very dull. I made an appointment with a neurologist...Is there anyone else I should see? Any other specialist?

    I don't understand what causes this...It hasn't happened to me in over a year, and all the sudden, boom.

    I was breathing perfect (in my opinion) and wasn't going to fast, just struggled a little on the last rep (constintely exhaled on the strain) felt fine...5 sec later BOOM, horrible headache/nausea.

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    A neurologist will cover it.

    Not to be too blunt, but you have a LOT of concerns about this. Is lifting heavy worth it to you? Your screen name is beach muscles and it doesn't take heavy lifting to get them. Sets of 10 work just fine if the curl jockeys in my gym are any indication. A good diet and constant exercise will give you a healthy life WITHOUT the fear of blowing a gasket.

    Is lifting heavy worth the worry to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBoxer View Post
    A neurologist will cover it.

    Not to be too blunt, but you have a LOT of concerns about this. Is lifting heavy worth it to you? Your screen name is beach muscles and it doesn't take heavy lifting to get them. Sets of 10 work just fine if the curl jockeys in my gym are any indication. A good diet and constant exercise will give you a healthy life WITHOUT the fear of blowing a gasket.

    Is lifting heavy worth the worry to you?
    My neurologist recommended me doing machines and doing sets of 20. He's like "You'll get smaller, but more defined".

    It took me 5 years to get this big, now I'm just all of the sudden gonna go light?

    So your saying if I stick to sets of 10-12, I can maintain/gain size still?

    BTW I have no passion to go heavy, and I could definitely live without doing it, but I want to stay big and continue to grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    My neurologist recommended me doing machines and doing sets of 20. He's like "You'll get smaller, but more defined".
    That is a complete and total MYTH. Aswell machines should never be the main focus in someones resistance program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor M. View Post
    That is a complete and total MYTH. Aswell machines should never be the main focus in someones resistance program.
    I know it's a myth...This is why I don't know who to see. It seems like the neurologist knows alot about brains/headaches, but almost nothing about bodybuilding/working out. Is there any doctors who have a fair mix of both knowledge? I mean what is considered going light? 10 hard reps isn't considered light to most doctors. Light to them is something you can easily do 20x.

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    Well, lots of people (myself included) have gained a little mass from 10 reps sets. Mass is more diet than anything else.

    But what I was really saying was that if your health is more important than going heavy then maybe you should stop going heavy, and the changes in strength and mass be damned.

    There is no reward without risk. If you've been training 5 years you know this. If the risks of heavy lifting, which certainly involve serious injury or even death, no longer are worth the reward - a big powerful body - then why continue?

    Here's some food for thought, though: It's not unheard of to die of an aneurysm or stroke while straining on the toilet. Knowing that - that these things can flat out kill anywhere, any time - is it worth giving up lifting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBoxer View Post

    Here's some food for thought, though: It's not unheard of to die of an aneurysm or stroke while straining on the toilet.
    Just imagine all the deaths that could be prevented if people would only intake more fiber!

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    I got the same unbelievable headache whenever I did heavy lifts, after the workout, and sometimes a day or two after. Someone advised me that I wasn't drinking enough water (which I wasn't). After that I chugged and chugged and haven't gotten a headache since. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    I still feel it very dull. I made an appointment with a neurologist...Is there anyone else I should see? Any other specialist?
    I think a neurologist will cover it. Have you ever tried pre-treatment? Taking an NSAID such as indomethacin about 20-30 min prior to working out sometimes helps tremendously.

    I don't understand what causes this...It hasn't happened to me in over a year, and all the sudden, boom.
    The cause is exercise. Some peoples brains are just wired differently. Migraine sufferers have many triggers......weather/foods/alcohol/stress/smells. You have EIH. The trigger for you unfortunately, is exercise. See above for treatment options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    I think a neurologist will cover it. Have you ever tried pre-treatment? Taking an NSAID such as indomethacin about 20-30 min prior to working out sometimes helps tremendously.

    The cause is exercise. Some peoples brains are just wired differently. Migraine sufferers have many triggers......weather/foods/alcohol/stress/smells. You have EIH. The trigger for you unfortunately, is exercise. See above for treatment options.
    Is it normal for an EIH to last 72 hours (dull)? I keep reading alot of articles online and most says minutes to hours, not days? I do know my sister suffered horrible migraines, so it's likely that I get them too. I mean this hasn't happened in over a year, but last night I was almost scared to go to bed (thinking I'm leaking blood from the brain or something, worse) It seems like the more you know, the worst it is. But I was thinking to myself, if I really had a ruptured aneurysm would I feel basically fine? I mean Saturday night I went out to a night club, and felt pretty good as I wasn't thinking about it too much, but there was still a noticeable throb/cringe/tightness.

    My sister is a new doctor, just graduated from NYU, and I kept asking her stuff but it seems she didn't know too much about the topic, and told me to see a neurologist.

    Also I haven't tried taking anything pre exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    Is it normal for an EIH to last 72 hours (dull)? I keep reading alot of articles online and most says minutes to hours, not days? I do know my sister suffered horrible migraines, so it's likely that I get them too.
    In general they last a few hours, but not always. An EIH is similar to migraine in the sense that they're both vascular headaches. Vascular headaches can last anywhere from a few minutes to many days.
    But I was thinking to myself, if I really had a ruptured aneurysm would I feel basically fine?
    You would likely be dead.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    Is it normal for an EIH to last 72 hours (dull)? I keep reading alot of articles online and most says minutes to hours, not days? I do know my sister suffered horrible migraines, so it's likely that I get them too. I mean this hasn't happened in over a year, but last night I was almost scared to go to bed (thinking I'm leaking blood from the brain or something, worse) It seems like the more you know, the worst it is. But I was thinking to myself, if I really had a ruptured aneurysm would I feel basically fine? I mean Saturday night I went out to a night club, and felt pretty good as I wasn't thinking about it too much, but there was still a noticeable throb/cringe/tightness.

    My sister is a new doctor, just graduated from NYU, and I kept asking her stuff but it seems she didn't know too much about the topic, and told me to see a neurologist.

    Also I haven't tried taking anything pre exercise.
    I've had Exertion headaches last a couple of days. They hurt like a bitch.

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    I went to the neurologist 7 months ago for a bad headache I had (similar to this) while working out. He had me do a MRI of the head with dye. It came back negative and all good.

    Now I just went to see him yesterday and explained what happened...Now he wants me to go get an Angiogram. I really can't afford to keep doing tests. He says the MRI of the head isn't perfectly accurate, and I can still have an aneursym. Should I see another neurologist? I just feel this guy knows alot of technical stuff, but not so much about working out, etc.

    I still feel this is what I had:

    Weight lifter's headache: Intense pain that originates in the occipital/nuchal region and radiates into the parietal area can occur as a result of the maximal exertion during weight lifting (Powell 1982). The pain is steady and described as boring. It gradually declines, leaving a residual ache that may lasts days or weeks. This headache may be caused by stretching of the cervical ligaments and tendons with development of excessive muscle contraction.

    But then again...the doctor is freaking me out with the aneursym talk.

    He says NOT TO WORRY "BUT 6% of MRIS come back negative for people who still have aneursyms"

    Oh sure, nothing to worry about Doctor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    Now I just went to see him yesterday and explained what happened...Now he wants me to go get an Angiogram.
    Sounds reasonable to me. It's the closest thing to a 100% sure-proof answer you're going to get.....which sounds like is exactly what you need before you can sleep again. It's essentially the gold-standard for diagnosing intracerebral aneurysms.
    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles
    Should I see another neurologist? I just feel this guy knows alot of technical stuff, but not so much about working out, etc.
    [whisper]you're not going to find many neurologists that know much about working out.[/whisper] That's not a knock on neurologists. It's the same reason a dermatologist isn't going to know much about sprained medial collateral ligaments....it's just not in their usual scope of practice.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    Sounds reasonable to me. It's the closest thing to a 100% sure-proof answer you're going to get.....which sounds like is exactly what you need before you can sleep again. It's essentially the gold-standard for diagnosing intracerebral aneurysms.
    [whisper]you're not going to find many neurologists that know much about working out.[/whisper] That's not a knock on neurologists. It's the same reason a dermatologist isn't going to know much about sprained medial collateral ligaments....it's just not in their usual scope of practice.
    Are you a doctor? That is almost verbatim what a doctor said on JustAnswer.com to me about it. Good answer

    Let's say I just continued on with my life, am I taking a big risk? I think he realized how worried I am about aneursyms. I was actually never worried, until I started reading about them...Google

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    is getting a headache from a heavy set really that big of a deal??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu View Post
    is getting a headache from a heavy set really that big of a deal??
    To be honest I never thought so, but tell a neurologist you got a headache from a heavy set, and you'll find yourself in the ER getting tests done.

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    Update? How are you feeling now? Did you and your neurologist finalize a plan?
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Sorry...Been busy since this is my first week of college...

    I haven't had any headaches since but the neurologist recommended that I go for a Angiogram last week. I still haven't gone, but I made an appointment to see another neurologist this Thursday for a second opinion. I'd rather not proceed with the Angiogram, if it's not necessary. My doctor told me there is 5-10% chance I still have something bad such as an aneursym, since the MRI's aren't perfect?

    I really can't afford the test, and I heard its risky (complications) if not done properly. So I'm going to bring my MRI prints, and explain the situation to the new neurologist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    I really can't afford the test, and I heard its risky (complications) if not done properly. So I'm going to bring my MRI prints, and explain the situation to the new neurologist.
    Sounds good. See what the 2nd opinion has to say. For the record, an arteriogram isn't *that* risky if it's performed by an experienced interventional radiologist. But I agree..... it would be nice to avoid it if possible. Keep us updated.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    I stopped reading after the first few posts lol but see a massage therapist. Sounds like tension in the neck. Try heat on the neck resting it and massaging the base of the skull where it joins the spine.

    I tend to carry my stress in the neck and get the same sort of thing.

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    I had these, I took a weak and a half of lifting and they went away.

    And I also stretch my neck before I workout to try to prevent them, it seems to help.
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