The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Core Muscle training

    I was wondering if you guys have any good resources for Core muscle training. Ive just been reading about it a bit lately and i feel that is an area ive been seriously neglecting in my work outs. Since I am a tall guy with a long torso and I feel as though working that area would be very important for me.

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    Squat, deadlift and some heavy weighted ab work.

    Train your abs in the same rep range as you would any other muscle... I don't wanna see you doing any sets of 50 situps or anything dumb like that.
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    chinups, standing overhead press, and overhead squats will give your abs a good workout as well.

    once or twice a week is fine for abs. find a few different exercises you like and rotate between them.
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    I have NEVER felt my abs working in a squat or deadlift, but thats not to say they arent working them.

    Just for reassurance, I like weighted crunches, and lyying leg lifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Con View Post
    I have NEVER felt my abs working in a squat or deadlift, but thats not to say they arent working them.

    Just for reassurance, I like weighted crunches, and lyying leg lifts.
    That's because you're not lifting enough.

    P.S. Those workouts are only HALF core training.



    OP, Overhead squats and standing military presses in combination with the 'big 3' that I'm sure you are already doing is plenty.

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    My core gets hit really hard in front squats and any sort of overhead pressing movement as mentioned above
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatmonky View Post
    That's because you're not lifting enough.

    P.S. Those workouts are only HALF core training.
    First, Lifting "enough" is all relative to the person.

    Second, how the hell do you know how much I lift? Cant be my old journal...

    Third, what is this magical number to start working your core?
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    just a little FYI to the OP:

    my abs are sore (and I mean sore) from yesterdays workout of military press, pullups, and deadlifts. The military press is really good one. I know that soreness isn't an indicator of how good the workout was but if they weren't getting hit at all they wouldn't be sore.
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    The Core is probably the most often incorrectly term used in weightlifting. when most people say core they mean the trunk. the core consist of the abs and mainly the hips, glutes and lower back, which are greatly strnegthen by lots of squats and deadlifts and their many variations


    but in this case im guessing your talking about abs (the trunk) in that case i say just do a lot of standing exercises without belts, over head pressing squatting deadlift and all types of things this will require lotys of stabilization and will strengthen your trunk

    if u want to do crunches thats kool as well, i woudlnt get too carried away with weighted ab exercises, the abdominals have a limited capacity for strength and size development.

    its beenn said before and it will continue to be said as long as threads like these are made, "Abs are built in the kitchen"


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    Compounds, only after squatting and deadlifting did I get the bottom abs to start coming in. I can feel my abs tightening...hard on every rep when I deadlift, I feel it for squats as well but more so for deads. Cleans, presses, rows, deads, squats, and I think most of the exercises that require you to move your bodyweight around eg. pullups. Theres a lot of isolation exercises for abs, do them heavy enough to keep the reps low...lol don't be the cardio jocky doing 50 situps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    The Core is probably the most often incorrectly term used in weightlifting. when most people say core they mean the trunk. the core consist of the abs and mainly the hips, glutes and lower back, which are greatly strnegthen by lots of squats and deadlifts and their many variations


    but in this case im guessing your talking about abs (the trunk) in that case i say just do a lot of standing exercises without belts, over head pressing squatting deadlift and all types of things this will require lotys of stabilization and will strengthen your trunk

    Didnt know that. Thanks
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    Heavy throws, oly lifts, overhead lifts, front squats, and deadlifts. That's all the "core" work you need. If you want you can do some direct stuff too but keep it heavy and low reps like deeder and nhlfan said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeripple View Post
    Compounds, only after squatting and deadlifting did I get the bottom abs to start coming in. I can feel my abs tightening...hard on every rep when I deadlift, I feel it for squats as well but more so for deads. Cleans, presses, rows, deads, squats, and I think most of the exercises that require you to move your bodyweight around eg. pullups. Theres a lot of isolation exercises for abs, do them heavy enough to keep the reps low...lol don't be the cardio jocky doing 50 situps.
    The "bottom" abs don't "come in". The abdominals are all one unit. You probably started to lose some fat in that area after leaning out and gaining more musculature there.
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    Squat, Lunge, DL, believe it or not one of the best ab and core exercises is hitting the heavy bag. But you can't just do arm punches. Concentrate on rotating the body and swiveling the hips when punching. You don't even have to punch that hard and the next day my abs, shoulders, chesst, arms, all are sore.

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