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    Chins vs. Pull-ups

    Newbie question:

    Just wondering today as I was doing them...it's obvious that most people are stronger on chins, but is this because of the mechanics of the movement, or because you're using more muscles in chins than you are in pull-ups?
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    I'm guessing more bicep involvement.
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    The underhand provides more secure grip if you know what I mean.. just an assumption

    I'm better at pull ups than I'm at chin-ups, chins hurt my wrists and forearms I don't even bother doing them anymore..

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    I believe its because the arms have the best line of pull when the hands are facing you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Shoulder width undergrip, elbows by side. This puts the biceps in the best line of pull and works the lats as a shoulder extensor.

    Medium width overgrip (forearms shoudl be perpendicular to the floor at the bottom), elbows flared out. This puts the biceps in a worse line of pull and works the lats as a humeral adductor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill View Post
    I'm guessing more bicep involvement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Con View Post
    I believe its because the arms have the best line of pull when the hands are facing you.



    Heres the entire topic(a good read): The Back Thread
    See, that's what I'm having trouble comprehending though. The biceps are much smaller than the lats. When you're doing chins, I know you're using your biceps more than you are in pull-ups, but are you using less lats and shoulders, or are you using the same group of muscles with the bonus coming with the biceps?
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    I believe lyle says its from people not truly knowing how to activate the lats during chins or pullups. Its just with chins, its easy to compensate since of the position of the bicep...I think.

    This is as far as I can go tho. Best bet would be to read the thread. All the good stuff is in the beggining, and its pretty short, but useful to know.
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    Con: I can't get into that thread. Do I have to sign up for it?
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    Yeah, it seems you need to register.

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    I like to do 2x6 pull ups, then 2x6 one handed chins
    then next time 2x6 one handed pull downs, then 2x6 chins

    1over=one handed over handed pull downs
    1under=one handed under handed pull downs

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    Quote Originally Posted by nddillon View Post
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    Thanks for the link.

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    bodyrecomposition.com is a pretty good site...for the most part. Their articles are good...the forums however are...uhhhh, juvenile. That is really being nice about it

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    Thanks nd, there was a good part in there that at least gave me one reason:

    "Finally, if you're biceps dominant, then chins more than likely are not for you. Once again, Innervation Training research means looking at "movements" and exercises differently. If you have very responsive low excitation thresholds in your biceps, then more than likely they will absorb or share too much of the load for you when doing chins. Once again, there are no special exercises (other than compounds); there are just exercises that work best for you. Technique and sequence become everything."

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    My teacher explained to me that when you are doing Pullups you are able to recruit your biceps more into the movement, however when you twist your forearm to do chinups this twists a tendon or something like that, meaning the bicep cannot contract as forcefully, meaning you are now using less muscle to lift yourself, making the lift more difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomv View Post
    My teacher explained to me that when you are doing Pullups you are able to recruit your biceps more into the movement, however when you twist your forearm to do chinups this twists a tendon or something like that, meaning the bicep cannot contract as forcefully, meaning you are now using less muscle to lift yourself, making the lift more difficult.
    I think you have pullup and chinup confused.
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    thats what i was thinking

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    Well reverse the names of the exercises .
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