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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Why is my chest sore after back day????

    Today is my chest day, which follows back day. Here are the exercises I did yesterday...

    Deadlifts (5 sets)
    Pullups (3 sets)
    T-bar rows (3 sets)
    Hammer High Row (3 sets with light weight)

    ...and now today my pecs are sore, mostly in the outer area. This usually happens everyweek and it's pissing me off. I currently follow a four day split which is setup like this:

    Day1: Back
    Day2: Chest

    Day3: Off
    Day4: Legs
    Day5: Shoulders

    Day6: Off
    Repeat

    I've already spent about 7-8 months on BGB and I'd really like to stick to this four day split, but possibly rearrange the days to avoid having sore pecs on chest day. Or does anyone have any recommendations for back exercises I could do that shouldn't cause my pecs to be sore?
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    ???

    I'm just as confused as you are..
    The only thing I could think of is possible pull ups for some reason. Maybe you're flexing your chest at the top perhaps? I wouldn't rearrange the days, I would figure out what's causing this.

    On a side note, as good as BGB is, I don't know why you would stick to it for 7-8 months. Unless of course you are continuing to make great gains off it.
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    I enjoyed the routine a lot, after about 5 months I switched gyms, so I had to swap some of the exercises for similar ones, which kept it from getting boring. I figured I'd just stick with it for the next 2 months (the summer) and start a new routine once school started.
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    that is really weird. Maybe you are going to far back and stretching/pulling your pecs. I don't even know if this is possible. Just a thought.
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    I think the answer lies in part of this article...

    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/magic_pin_pull.htm

    "As for building your chest, I think the pin pull is probably one of the best chest exercises out there. You are probably scratching your head, but let me explain:

    The pin pull puts tremendous strain on the pec. Donít believe me? Grab a training partnerís pec (make sure you get consent first) while they do them or perform a few reps while looking in a mirror. You wonít believe the contraction. If you have ever torn your pec, you know how much it hurts to pull. This alone shows how much pec is involved with the pin pull. And donít forget that you can handle much more weight on the pin pull then the bench press. Bigger weights = Bigger muscles." -Jim Wendler

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoney View Post
    I think the answer lies in part of this article...

    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/magic_pin_pull.htm

    "As for building your chest, I think the pin pull is probably one of the best chest exercises out there. You are probably scratching your head, but let me explain:

    The pin pull puts tremendous strain on the pec. Donít believe me? Grab a training partnerís pec (make sure you get consent first) while they do them or perform a few reps while looking in a mirror. You wonít believe the contraction. If you have ever torn your pec, you know how much it hurts to pull. This alone shows how much pec is involved with the pin pull. And donít forget that you can handle much more weight on the pin pull then the bench press. Bigger weights = Bigger muscles." -Jim Wendler
    Interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoney View Post
    I think the answer lies in part of this article...

    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/magic_pin_pull.htm

    "As for building your chest, I think the pin pull is probably one of the best chest exercises out there. You are probably scratching your head, but let me explain:

    The pin pull puts tremendous strain on the pec. Donít believe me? Grab a training partnerís pec (make sure you get consent first) while they do them or perform a few reps while looking in a mirror. You wonít believe the contraction. If you have ever torn your pec, you know how much it hurts to pull. This alone shows how much pec is involved with the pin pull. And donít forget that you can handle much more weight on the pin pull then the bench press. Bigger weights = Bigger muscles." -Jim Wendler



    Very interesting article.

    But yeah, I think he nailed it on the head.
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    The chest is engaged as a stabilizer and assistant muscle in pull ups a well.
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    Hasn't everyone had different parts of their upper body become sore after a good chest/back/or shoulder workout?
    My brother and I were brutal. I once chased him around the house with a spoon that I put on the burner. I burned that little pricks leg. -sharkall2003

    Then I saw a little african boy sleeping, and I thought...that is little Okeke. he is tired from herding all the goats and the big goat got away today - Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB View Post
    Hasn't everyone had different parts of their upper body become sore after a good chest/back/or shoulder workout?
    No.

    The body parts that I train directly is what becomes sore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    No.

    The body parts that I train directly is what becomes sore.
    What are you talking about. I've heard you ask why something else is sore when you didn't even train that muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by World-Is-Yours View Post
    What are you talking about. I've heard you ask why something else is sore when you didn't even train that muscle.
    I can remember rare times when that's happened but it's nothing that happens to me consistently or nothing that I can figure out and pinpoint why it happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    I can remember rare times when that's happened but it's nothing that happens to me consistently or nothing that I can figure out and pinpoint why it happened.
    .....Which is exactly what HahnB is saying.
    "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - John Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by World-Is-Yours View Post
    .....Which is exactly what HahnB is saying.
    Lol what? Don't be difficult, dude.

    The thread is about finding a reason as to WHY it happens. HahnB made it sound like it happens often to him and/or he has an understanding why it happens.
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    Yeah like my abs were sore after doing pullovers and with military press once or twice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstein85 View Post
    Yeah like my abs were sore after doing pullovers and with military press once or twice
    That's understandable. Your core tightens on almost all compound movements.
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    Probably for the same reason my lats get sore after working out my chest, especially when doing negs. The lats act as stabilizer muscles. It seems strange due to the fact that the lats aren't actually pulling any weight but the muscle is shortening ( contracting) while resisting the force during the negative portion of the exercise.

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    My chest has been sore after a back workout before, it doesn't happen a lot but it does on occasion. I figured everyone has experienced this before. Sometimes if I do a lot of over head pressing my chest will be a little sore as well.
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