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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    smith machine vs bench press

    I'd just like to know about the discrepancies between using a smith machine vs bench press. which one is better for measuring your max? i know that when using a smith machine it is more geared towards focusing mainly on your pecs, since you dont have to stabilize. but with regular bench you do. the thing is that my max on a smith machine is 245. but on the regular bench press i can only push about 195. i weigh in at 160. is there any way i can equalize? i can dumbell press 200 but my bench press is what is disappointing me. shouldnt one be able to bench more than they press? my numbers on the smith seem reasonable but my bench sux.

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    dont even bother using a smith machine those things suck
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    Smith Machine is a joke. Period. Use barbells and dumbells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwolf4555 View Post
    I'd just like to know about the discrepancies between using a smith machine vs bench press. which one is better for measuring your max? i know that when using a smith machine it is more geared towards focusing mainly on your pecs, since you dont have to stabilize. but with regular bench you do. the thing is that my max on a smith machine is 245. but on the regular bench press i can only push about 195. i weigh in at 160. is there any way i can equalize? i can dumbell press 200 but my bench press is what is disappointing me. shouldnt one be able to bench more than they press? my numbers on the smith seem reasonable but my bench sux.
    Your bench is 195lbs. Please don't go around telling people you can bench 245lbs. The Smith Machine is not a real exercise and therefore don't provide real numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwolf4555 View Post
    I i can dumbell press 200 but my bench press is what is disappointing me. shouldnt one be able to bench more than they press? my numbers on the smith seem reasonable but my bench sux.
    so you can dumbell press more than you barbell press, that doesn't make much sense, unless i'm reading it wrong. but either way don't do smith machine press, there isn't a way to equalize it because the smith machine is way easier. its kinda like squats vs. leg press (even though this is a extreme example), one is way easier than the other, you will always be able to do more on leg press than you can on squat. same thing with smith machine bench vs. barbell bench
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman- View Post
    Your bench is 195lbs. Please don't go around telling people you can bench 245lbs. The Smith Machine is not a real exercise and therefore don't provide real numbers.

    Ya, everyone looks like a beast on the smith machine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Champion View Post
    Smith Machine is a joke. Period. Use barbells and dumbells.
    What he said.

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