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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Your Best Mass Building Routine?

    I have been doing the BGB 5x5 routine for the past few months and after this month I am going to change it to a mass building instead of strength - What is prob the best one in your guys opinions? I have been lookin at some I just want to know your guys opinion? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by abefroman35 View Post
    I have been doing the BGB 5x5 routine for the past few months and after this month I am going to change it to a mass building instead of strength - What is prob the best one in your guys opinions? I have been lookin at some I just want to know your guys opinion? thanks
    BGB can be a 'mass building' routine. I think perhaps you need to re-examine your diet. Building muscle can come from any sort of physical activity. even on a scientific level, BGB offers a variety of rep ranges. I really dont like the phrase, "mass building" because in my experience, most people imagine blowing up like an elephant man. That wouldnt happen for many years down the road. Instead, focus on strength increases and 'muscle building'
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    I don't like the phrase "mass building routine" because just about any routine that's not excessive (like 20 sets for biceps) will put on muscle as long as the calories are present. Likewise even the very best routine will fail if the nutrients are not there to build the muscle.

    But to answer your question, the best mass building routine is one that involves the major compounds, lots of food (keep protein levels up) plenty of rest, and most importantly progression. Also try and keep it to around under an hour or so.

    But there is no single best routine. Everyone will have a different opinion.
    Last edited by Songsangnim; 09-20-2007 at 10:03 PM.

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    squat heavy

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    eat

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    yep its about that simple man
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    Quote Originally Posted by abefroman35 View Post
    I have been doing the BGB 5x5 routine for the past few months and after this month I am going to change it to a mass building instead of strength - What is prob the best one in your guys opinions? I have been lookin at some I just want to know your guys opinion? thanks
    My routine is the best mass building routine IMO since it was the best one that worked for me.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

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    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

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    Whatever routine includes the most food will put mass on the quickest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    squat heavy

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    yep its about that simple man

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    Bench, squat and pull heavy. Eat McDonald's like that guy in SuperSize Me.
    Bigger, stronger, faster, every day.

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    "The new rules of lifting" - best program ever.

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    Not all rep ranges are equal when hypertrophy is the goal.

    But it's so much easier to say,

    bro its all aboout tha compoundz, they get you jakt!!!! YoU nEEd tO SquAT Bro!

    But here is all about simple answers.
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    BGB is not 5x5. Bill Starr's routine is 5x5.

    BGB is a mass building routine
    Bill Starr's 5x5 is a mass building routine
    ... but they are two different things.

    If your concern is about building mass, look to your diet and rest more than anything.
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    Flat bench
    4x4-10 reps

    Incline
    4x4-10 reps

    Dips
    4x4x-10 reps


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    Squats
    4x4-10 reps

    Lunges
    4x4-10 reps

    Romanian deadlifts
    4x4-10 reps
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    Off

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    Military Press
    4x4-10 reps

    Close Grip Bench
    4x4-10 reps

    Front and rear raises
    4x4-10 reps

    Skull Crushers
    4x4-10 reps

    Pushdowns
    2x40

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    Pullups
    4x4-10 reps

    Rack pulls
    4x4-10 reps

    T-bar Rows
    4x4-10 reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by daved931 View Post
    Bench, squat and pull heavy. Eat McDonald's like that guy in SuperSize Me.
    dont eat like that we dont all want to have cardiac arrest happen to us lol
    im jk
    but just eat alot of meat and vegtables, and ive read that its smart to stay away from pasta

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    squat heavy

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    yep its about that simple man

    +1 thank god someone posted this.

    Keep it simploe. lift heavy, eat alot, sleep alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapour Trails View Post
    Not all rep ranges are equal when hypertrophy is the goal.

    But it's so much easier to say,

    bro its all aboout tha compoundz, they get you jakt!!!! YoU nEEd tO SquAT Bro!

    But here is all about simple answers.

    Because bodybuilding IS simple. It's not rocket science. There are basic principles which work for everybody. And what's with all the snideness?
    Last edited by Songsangnim; 09-21-2007 at 07:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daved931 View Post
    Bench, squat and pull heavy. Eat McDonald's like that guy in SuperSize Me.
    I hope your kidding about the mcdonalds part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ2389 View Post
    I hope your kidding about the mcdonalds part...
    McDonalds is great for getting in some cheap calories.
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    Eat McDonald's like that guy in SuperSize Me.
    please dont be idiotic
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    Quote Originally Posted by abefroman35 View Post
    I have been doing the BGB 5x5 routine for the past few months and after this month I am going to change it to a mass building instead of strength - What is prob the best one in your guys opinions? I have been lookin at some I just want to know your guys opinion? thanks
    If you dont want strength, only size, up the reps(8-10). ie The glycogen taxation of you muscle cells. they will all grow (store more sugar and hence more water hence become more turgid). and you will look bigger.

    Or you can do what almost everyone here has told you and eat and lift heavy.

    If you lifting as heavy as you can doing compund movements for sets of five and you not putting on weight the only probelm you can have is your diet... simple as that im afraid...
    200lbs @ 10%
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    Dude... wow... i'm drunk. Flabbagasted at your choice of decision. Should i call you in 30 min when we are en route, come, oaks are for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMcGuire View Post
    McDonalds is great for getting in some cheap calories.
    So is eating hand fulls of crisco, what's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB View Post
    So is eating hand fulls of crisco, what's your point?
    Oh god are you doing this again? How bout you just link back to that thread and my points listed pretty clearly about the macros. Agree to disagree.

    Btw, Crisco has how much protein?

    But seriously, theres no point in making the same arguments over and over when people just wont agree.
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    lol, I don't understand why people think fast food is so cheap. A meal- fries burger and drink- is gonna cost you around 6 bucks. Hmmm, that's 1/5th of an entire tub of protein. Seems like a pretty ****ty deal to me. On top of that, it's prepared by people who don't give a damn because they're making jack squat and the food is disgusting to boot.

    I could think of a much better meal for 6 dollars. I'd rather cook up a boneless skinless chicken breast with some rice and cottage cheese.
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    lol, I don't understand why people think fast food is so cheap. A meal- fries burger and drink- is gonna cost you around 6 bucks. Hmmm, that's 1/5th of an entire tub of protein. Seems like a pretty ****ty deal to me. On top of that, it's prepared by people who don't give a damn because they're making jack squat and the food is disgusting to boot.

    I could think of a much better meal for 6 dollars. I'd rather cook up a boneless skinless chicken breast with some rice and cottage cheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB View Post
    lol, I don't understand why people think fast food is so cheap. A meal- fries burger and drink- is gonna cost you around 6 bucks. Hmmm, that's 1/5th of an entire tub of protein. Seems like a pretty ****ty deal to me. On top of that, it's prepared by people who don't give a damn because they're making jack squat and the food is disgusting to boot.

    I could think of a much better meal for 6 dollars. I'd rather cook up a boneless skinless chicken breast with some rice and cottage cheese.
    I gotta agree. Chicken and rice can be made so many ways and they all taste awesome. It's also one of the cheapest meals possible.
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    Ive definately been thinking like hahn lately.

    Instead of buying those expensive, but very temtping and tasty protein bars, Ive been using 11 cents more to buy a tub of cottage cheese.
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