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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    goodbye america

    In 10 years
    • You'll have to go through a "health care agent" to get approval for every tiny procedure and prescription, and probably wont get it half the time
    • Endless paperwork (that will, of course, like any bureaucracy, get rejected on any of the tiniest of procedural mistakes) whenever you deal with that agent
    • Queuing lines. Not just physical ones when you visit a health care bureaucracy office, but virtual ones where you have to wait your turn just to hear back for someone.
    • Praying you don't get a life threatening disease in an advanced stage or critical onset rate for fear that you die before Agents and Procedures help you ("Sorry, we have other sick people to help. You're not the only one. Get back in line!")
    • Being called a criminal if you try to see a physician or specialist outside of the bureaucracy.
    • Being told you make too much money to qualify for certain medical benefits and procedures, even though you pay more taxes, because low income citizens are "more needy" than you.
    • Not having anywhere left in the world to fly your child too that doesn't have socialized medicine when your child's gallbladder cancer has metastasized again and it will take 3 weeks just to get it tested again. Who knows. Maybe you can go to China. Hopefully you'll have the money pay off the state officials there.
    • Calling your representatives after everyone has found out what a nightmare socialized medicine has become and being told that even though politicians created it, they can't "undo" it because studies show the bureaucratic medical system couldn't handle the transition.
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    Umm, no?

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    Maybe in Canada
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

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    Sounds awesome, comrade. Where can I sign up?

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    Oh, come on, at least they'll get everyone out of Iraq. What? thats not right anymore? Has anyone seen Hillary and Edwards running from saying they'll pull the troops out of Iraq. Instead they are saying they don't know what they will be saddled with. Huh? So let me get this straight, you hammer Bush over and over about the war and pulling the troops out, but you won't say you'll pull the troops out b/c you don't know what the situation is. Dems promised to get the troops out when everyone voted for them, what have they done? Nada.

    But at least we'll have universal healthcare that no one wants. If people wanted to be insured they could be, young people just don't get insured, they decide to spend their money elsewhere. Lucky for most of America, I think most people don't think the gov't can run healthcare any better. Do I think there needs to be an overhaul of the system, do insurance companies need to be hammered, I believe so. I do not think the care needs to be touched or gov't run, nor the insurance companies. However, someone needs to step in and really look at why my health insurance in NC was $500 a month for my entire family and then $2500 a month in NY, for the exact same policy, same company.
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    BilltheButcher, only a moron would think that hillary would actually pull out of Iraq when she become president. Okay, moron is a tough word with a derogatory connotation. Let me try to rephrase this. You have to be completely oblivious to politics to believe that Hillary would pull out of Iraq once she becomes present, for several reasons:
    1) If she ordered a pullout, and the massive chaos and anarchy could be blamed on her, because even though she didn't start the war, atleast there wasn't massive anarchy and carnage until she ordered the pullout
    2) if there is ever another attack on american soil and any connection can be made to Iraq, she will be blamed for it.

    Anyway, I don't care. I think we deserve to be attacked. I really do. This is a country of whining bitches.
    Gimme free healthcare! What do you mean I only get 40% of my paycheck now?
    Bushy 9-11 is your fault. You didn't connect the dots. Hey, wait! Bushy! Stop connecting the dots! There is no war on terror! You tyrant. Stop spying on terrorists... I mean, er.... innocent americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post
    BilltheButcher, only a moron would think that hillary would actually pull out of Iraq when she become president. Okay, moron is a tough word with a derogatory connotation. Let me try to rephrase this. You have to be completely oblivious to politics to believe that Hillary would pull out of Iraq once she becomes present, for several reasons:
    1) If she ordered a pullout, and the massive chaos and anarchy could be blamed on her, because even though she didn't start the war, atleast there wasn't massive anarchy and carnage until she ordered the pullout
    2) if there is ever another attack on american soil and any connection can be made to Iraq, she will be blamed for it.

    Anyway, I don't care. I think we deserve to be attacked. I really do. This is a country of whining bitches.
    Gimme free healthcare! What do you mean I only get 40% of my paycheck now?
    Bushy 9-11 is your fault. You didn't connect the dots. Hey, wait! Bushy! Stop connecting the dots! There is no war on terror! You tyrant. Stop spying on terrorists... I mean, er.... innocent americans.


    Better put your flame suit on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post
    1) If she ordered a pullout, and the massive chaos and anarchy could be blamed on her, because even though she didn't start the war, atleast there wasn't massive anarchy and carnage until she ordered the pullout
    The only Pullout Hillary is going to order will be directed to Bill her husband!

    TY TY I'll be here all night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjohnso View Post
    Sounds awesome, comrade. Where can I sign up?
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjohnso View Post
    Better put your flame suit on.
    I know. I have to admit, I started this thread in order to stir up some fun shenanigan's. It seems a bit slow around here today. Don't be haitn'
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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post
    I know. I have to admit, I started this thread in order to stir up some fun shenanigan's. It seems a bit slow around here today. Don't be haitn'
    I'm not hatin. I can't wait to see the sparks fly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post
    BilltheButcher, only a moron would think that hillary would actually pull out of Iraq when she become president. Okay, moron is a tough word with a derogatory connotation. Let me try to rephrase this. You have to be completely oblivious to politics to believe that Hillary would pull out of Iraq once she becomes present, for several reasons:
    1) If she ordered a pullout, and the massive chaos and anarchy could be blamed on her, because even though she didn't start the war, atleast there wasn't massive anarchy and carnage until she ordered the pullout
    2) if there is ever another attack on american soil and any connection can be made to Iraq, she will be blamed for it.

    Anyway, I don't care. I think we deserve to be attacked. I really do. This is a country of whining bitches.
    Gimme free healthcare! What do you mean I only get 40% of my paycheck now?
    Bushy 9-11 is your fault. You didn't connect the dots. Hey, wait! Bushy! Stop connecting the dots! There is no war on terror! You tyrant. Stop spying on terrorists... I mean, er.... innocent americans.
    Oh, boy. only time to read and quick respond, but you can go back an start editing it if you want.
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    Everything was great up until the Great Depression. After that there have been so many government backings and help programs that people usually aren't allowed to fall flat on their face. Instead, we need to look out for humanity.....

    This country is going to ****. They already take over 20% of my money and they want to take more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post

    This country is going to ****. They already take over 20% of my money and they want to take more.
    That's all???

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjohnso View Post
    That's all???
    Yeah, I remember when I was in college and working full time and was making BARELY above the official "poverty line" I was getting taxed more than 20% if you count federal/state/local together
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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post
    Yeah, I remember when I was in college and working full time and was making BARELY above the official "poverty line" I was getting taxed more than 20% if you count federal/state/local together

    How much did you get back after doing your income tax the following year?
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    In my mind Ron Paul is going from guy I would vote for to only hope for America.

    If he claimed to be sent by God to save America it would actually be believable to me, and I'm an atheist.

    He's also the only president IMHO that will keep America dominant for the next 100 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post
    Everything was great up until the Great Depression. After that there have been so many government backings and help programs that people usually aren't allowed to fall flat on their face. Instead, we need to look out for humanity.....

    This country is going to ****. They already take over 20% of my money and they want to take more.
    then VOTE RON PAUL. He is for getting rid of the IRS and the income and inflation taxes altogether. The money from the war will be spent on our own borders and restoring our own social security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nejar462 View Post
    In my mind Ron Paul is going from guy I would vote for to only hope for America.

    If he claimed to be sent by God to save America it would actually be believable to me, and I'm an atheist.

    He's also the only president IMHO that will keep America dominant for the next 100 years.
    You're an Atheist. And surprisingly, this Christian agrees with you on this point. Ron Paul!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zen View Post

    Anyway, I don't care. I think we deserve to be attacked. I really do. This is a country of whining bitches.
    .
    Are you serious on this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nejar462 View Post
    In my mind Ron Paul is going from guy I would vote for to only hope for America.

    If he claimed to be sent by God to save America it would actually be believable to me, and I'm an atheist.

    He's also the only president IMHO that will keep America dominant for the next 100 years.
    I can't say I know a ton about politics, but I woudl throw a party if ron paul was our president. He stands alone from his competitors and seems to be the only one that will be able to keep our country where it is / make it better. If some war hawk comes in and just starts to want expanding the patriot act, expanding the war on drugs, increasing swat teams, starting more fights <couhg> iran <cough>, we're potentially looking at ****ty times ahead.
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    Ron Paul isn't doing a lot of advertising in Iowa yet, but I'm pretty sure he'll be our next president.
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    Ron Paul for the win. I'm voting Ron. If he's not on the ballet, then McCain.
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    Taxes are an easy game to learn, and not pay.

    My main complaint is social security. Needs to be tossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Hatfield View Post
    Ron Paul isn't doing a lot of advertising in Iowa yet, but I'm pretty sure he'll be our next president.
    How up to date on politics are you? I only ask because pretty much everywhere I read (on sites that heavily support him), people make it seem like he has no chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWebb78 View Post
    Taxes are an easy game to learn, and not pay.

    My main complaint is social security. Needs to be tossed.
    yes, taxes are very, very easy to play (take it from someone in real estate, I know dudes who pay virtually *zero* taxes by constructing ridiculous companies/transactions to avoid taxation).

    Yeah, social security totally needs to be tossed, and I don't even mind that I've been paying my share of it, and that that money would be wasted (basically lost money on my end) just to end a ****ty, ****ty program.
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