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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    any advice for 550lbs dead lift (video)

    whats up guys I went for 550lbs dead lift on wed. of last week and I got it up to about my knees. can you guy me some advice on my forum if you think it could to improved. im 6'3 202lbs and im only 15. if anyone knows or could tell me how to fined out what the dead lift record is for 15 year olds in the state of florida.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=HBnFE26VbRg

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    It's not the best angle to give advice.

    1. Stop making noise when you lift - hold your air in
    2. Keep your head up
    3. Your upper back is very weak
    4. Your abs are very weak
    5. Your hamstrings and low back are weak.
    6. Pull in socks - those shoes put your weight on your toes and that's bad

    You just need to gain some weight and get stronger. If you're an athlete, concentrate on your sport. If you're a lifter, then start eating. You have a long frame and you need to just fill it out.

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    Ah jeez, and to think I actually sounded this annoying a year or so ago...

    anyway to the point.

    You look like a strong kid but as rhodes mentioned there are alot of weaknesses on you, most notably your upperback.

    1. fix your upper back, heavy rack pulls, rows and chins, in that order.
    2. Pull barefoot or in Olympic weightlifting shoes, either is good.
    3. Start doing weighted planks to get some ab strength going.
    4. Do other types of deadlifts such as stiffies etc to strengthen your hamstrings and focus on keeping a tight back. I bet yor lower back rounded to.

    Oh... and from another teen, dont think your that special, it took me a while to learn all the natural strength and genetics in the world doesnt mean **** if you dont have the right attitude and state of mind.

    I never got strong till I stopped telling people I was.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Ah jeez, and to think I actually sounded this annoying a year or so ago...

    anyway to the point.

    You look like a strong kid but as rhodes mentioned there are alot of weaknesses on you, most notably your upperback.

    1. fix your upper back, heavy rack pulls, rows and chins, in that order.
    2. Pull barefoot or in Olympic weightlifting shoes, either is good.
    3. Start doing weighted planks to get some ab strength going.
    4. Do other types of deadlifts such as stiffies etc to strengthen your hamstrings and focus on keeping a tight back. I bet yor lower back rounded to.

    Oh... and from another teen, dont think your that special, it took me a while to learn all the natural strength and genetics in the world doesnt mean **** if you dont have the right attitude and state of mind.

    I never got strong till I stopped telling people I was.
    thank you for the advice fellow teen. but I dont think im that strong. I dont walk around thinking im gods gift or something great. I lift because its a hobby of mine, and it helps me in football. Also im not to clear on what your saying about right attitude and state of mind????

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    almost pulling 550 @ 15 with no belt and THAT THIN is REMARKABLE

    hit your hams, abs, and upper back hard
    2000 or bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by catsman72 View Post
    thank you for the advice fellow teen. but I dont think im that strong. I dont walk around thinking im gods gift or something great. I lift because its a hobby of mine, and it helps me in football. Also im not to clear on what your saying about right attitude and state of mind????
    You will get what Im saying one day hopefully...

    anyway, goodluck to you man, you got some insane strength potential.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    You will get what Im saying one day hopefully...

    anyway, goodluck to you man, you got some insane strength potential.
    okay. thanks again man. hey whats your dead lift and clean? back in march I got 250lbs clean. or metric it works out to be 113.4 kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    almost pulling 550 @ 15 with no belt and THAT THIN is REMARKABLE

    hit your hams, abs, and upper back hard
    The point is to lift the weight. Not almost lift it. And, no offense, but it wasn't even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    The point is to lift the weight. Not almost lift it. And, no offense, but it wasn't even close.


    I think we could critique your form better if you posted a video of a heavy attempt that you made.
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    i still think there should be credit givin to a 15 year old who is thin as a rail getting 550 to the knees.

    give 500 a shot to the OP on video
    2000 or bust

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    Hey stump I *think* he was wearing a belt (unless they were his boxers), see at minute 0:16. Not that that has much to do with anything, it was a good attempt.
    Last edited by fpr; 11-04-2007 at 07:54 PM.

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    Lower the weight, work on the form. Improve your core strength and eat.

    I don't care what you play, any type of strength sport (weightlifting, football, hockey), you will only improve vastly from chucking another 35-40 pounds on that frame.

    You also never had that 550, you got it to the knees but you were in a horrible position to continue the lift even if you had it in the tank.
    Last edited by WBBIRL; 11-04-2007 at 08:43 PM.

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    - Start with your hips lower
    - Don't jerk the bar from the floor, you lose all tightness when you do this
    - Don't let your back round
    - Don't ever do that again... I'm amazed you haven't hurt yourself yet. Get somebody experienced to teach you how to lift properly.
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    Everything has been pretty much said but if you're looking to get a record you'll have to do it without straps. Start training that grip and ditch the straps.
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    thanks alot guy/girls for all the advice. I no I was not close at all to getting the lift. I wanted to get a point of view on what I should start working on first because weight lifting season is right around the coner. O and I was wearing a belt. I have gotten 500lbs dead lift. and when I got that I riped the callous off my ring finger. thats the only reason I was using straps to prevent it from ripping off again.lol

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    I dunno, maybe its just me, but that looked pretty painful. I think you should take the weight down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    i still think there should be credit givin to a 15 year old who is thin as a rail getting 550 to the knees.

    give 500 a shot to the OP on video
    I dont know man... I feel like if he keeps going like that, he's definitely going to hurt himself. I wouldn't reward him for that lift at all. Not to take anything away, sure, thats quite a feat...but its dangerous too.
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