The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Your changes to the westside template to make it work for you

    Hey everyone,

    I was thinking the otherday about the...."westside" template

    The more I read about it, the more it evolves...and people alter it to suit their needs or weakness.

    What are some changes you have made to the template, or setup of the program. (ie adding in full raw squats, taking out speed work)

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    scrapped the DE squat for a day of pulls, i do rows on this day too.
    23 years old
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    825 Squat
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    1905 total
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    DE and ME squats done in the same session, working up to a max after DE work. Using heavier weight on speed pulls. Lighter weight on speed bench. More heavy delt work. More direct quad work when necessary. More benching. 3 days instead of 4.

    Stats: Age: 34 Weight: 205 Height: 5'6"
    Gym PRs: Squat:635 Bench:560 Deadlift:495
    Meet PRs: Squat:575 Bench:525 Deadlift:510 Total: 1605@220

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    i just made a 3 week cycle where i wave progressivly heavier speed squats, IE 275 295 315, and on speed bench days im waving straight weight, then bands, then chains. im also switching ME work every week as the normal westside.
    2000 or bust

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    I didn't change it very much. I just cut down the number of sets I did on DE day. Also, I did a progressive overload approach to the dynamic work. Instead of a heavy band/circa max/light band cycle, I would pick my percentages for each 3 week wave and keep them the same, only after each deload week I'd either add more chains, or more bands. Also, I rarely did any free squatting as this would alter my squat technique.

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    We just change the type of resistance weekly instead of the exercise. First week lightened method, second week chains, third week against bands. For the first 2 months after i got the bands i just went against bands and got REALLY strong, then when i came back for the 3rd month i went down because of overtraining. thats why now i change the resistance every week and it has been workin great for us. if you want to do a type of circa max thing, i really liked the against bands for a few weeks straight increasing the tension, but if you use it for more than 2 months it will cause overtraining.

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    I'm still learning, but cutting and upping the weight on DE day were the major changes for me. I'm also doing the big 3 more often than Westside does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing View Post
    I'm still learning, but cutting and upping the weight on DE day were the major changes for me. I'm also doing the big 3 more often than Westside does.
    Why up the weight on DE day? It's about speed, not weight. A lot of people let their ego get in the way of DE work. The bar has to move fast, or it's a waste. You might as well do Repetition work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Why up the weight on DE day? It's about speed, not weight. A lot of people let their ego get in the way of DE work. The bar has to move fast, or it's a waste. You might as well do Repetition work.
    I'm new(ish) and I lift raw. Many sources, including Elite and I thinkn Westside themselves, have suggested that raw lifters lifte heavier on DE days. Instead of 50-60%, I train in the 60-70% range.

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