The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Baby got Back but for the Chest?

    My back completely overlaps my chest

    Is there a routine built to help form a massive chest?

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    yeah its a common question with the BGB program is the lack of chest work.


    the way ive combated this is on the vertical plane days, do some wide grip dips, and some cable flyes/cross overs

    along with the shoulder work as well, stays along these lines of the program.


    give it a shot
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    look up Block Training...I believe it's in Get Built Issue 4...one of 'em

    before I tore my ACL I was at my strongest (benching), yet at my lowest weight/bodyfat

    175lbs, doing 215x5x5...that def. would have kept going up had I not torn my ACL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    yeah its a common question with the BGB program is the lack of chest work.


    the way ive combated this is on the vertical plane days, do some wide grip dips, and some cable flyes/cross overs

    along with the shoulder work as well, stays along these lines of the program.


    give it a shot
    I still dont really get this. Technically, the chest can be hit 3 times a week with BGB.

    1.5x5 Benchpress
    3x8 Incline DB press

    2.5x5 Military press

    3.5x5 Dips
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    You can also throw in a bench press on day 4 to directly hit the pecs twice a week, although military presses and dips also hit the chest.
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    how can the chest be hit three times a week with bgb??


    withotu the dips, chest only gets hit once a week, where do u see this three times a week?
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    Military Presses also hit the chest. If you add in another chest exercise on your triceps day that makes three hits in a week.
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    My chest is my best bodypart so I did not worry about it much on BGB. It got hit a little with dips on the one day and then other than that I jus added cable crossovers to the chest day.
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    on the tricep day, sub one excercise for a set or two of heavy BB presses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Yep, Issue four. http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=280

    How's that knee coming along KingWilder?
    well I've been doing squats, GMs, Lunges, Deadlifts, KB Swings, Clean and Jerk...so I'd say pretty well

    and then I get surgery in 6 days and it's back to square 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiel View Post
    Military Presses also hit the chest. If you add in another chest exercise on your triceps day that makes three hits in a week.
    ive done tons of military press in my lifetime and never felt a pump in my pecs? doesnt even make biomechanical or anatomical sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    ive done tons of military press in my lifetime and never felt a pump in my pecs? doesnt even make biomechanical or anatomical sense...
    Apparently you dont know quite as much about biomechanics or anatomy as you think then

    The "pump" is not needed to target a muscle.

    Like I said, technically it can be 3..look above at my other post.
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    Rich McGuire is right. Learn how the body works.
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    i still dont see the pecs working anything worth mentioning in the military press, if you have to lean that far back to press the weight to get anytype of major pec activation i think something your doing is wrong



    and technically you work almost every muscle on every exercise to a degree, but i also doubt that military press will build those calf that much
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    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...taryPress.html

    Read it and learn. The pectorals and the traps are engaged as synergists. You can't hold anything over your head without engaging them.

    And we're not leaning back... it's just biomechanics...

    But all this aside, the original question was about further working the chest beyond the basic BGB routine, and we gave him his answer - put in a second bench pressing day on the day you work your triceps and you're done.
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    big back is good for a big bench. more important than chest. can't have a bird chest, but big lats/upper back and triceps are the most important for movin the weight. just bench heavy once and week and maybe one lighter day

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