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    Natural sources of casein and whey

    Other than in supplement form, what are healthy foods that are examples of whey and casein proteins?


    I know Milk has some of both, would cottage cheese be the same? Which one is meat?

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    If I'm not mistaken, whey and casein are only found in milk products. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    I guess I am looking for someone to say

    Whey sources
    this, this and that

    Casein sources
    those, these and this

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    Whey and casein are both derived from milk.
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    Simple wikipedia search reveals that whey is the liquid byproduct of curdling milk. Casein is what's left and is a major component of cheese. Doesn't mention any other sources...
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    There are more then just those two. Whey and casein are both milk products, so you would get them from anything derived from dairy. Cream, cheese, yogurt, etc.
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    You all don't seem to understand what I am looking for. I am sorry for not explaining it better. I am looking for Non-supplement sources for both whey and casein proteins, not together. An ideal reply would be...

    Meat is a source of ________. Eggs are a source of _________. Beans are a source of _________. and so on....


    is meat whey or casein or both? eggs? beans? soy?

    For some reason I can't find anything online that has this info
    I found this- Casein Protein is a milk protein extract recognized for its excellent amino
    acid profile and digestion. Studies have shown that casein proteins may be
    the better protein with regards to muscle catabolism. Studies that compare
    whey and casein proteins during workout periods found that whey protein
    exerts a far stronger anabolic response. When casein is used at other
    periods the strength gains are twice that of whey. So a blend of casein and
    whey seems to be preferable.

    Does that mean that casein is only dairy based???

    Sorry and thanks

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    Meat is not whey or casein. Whey and casein are derived from milk. Yes, it is only from dairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    Meat is not whey or casein. Whey and casein are derived from milk. Yes, it is only from dairy.
    But where does it come from?



    ndillon: The question was fine, you just didn't understand the answer. I think it's been cleared up though.
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    If you want non-supplement sources, powdered milk is a pretty good replacement. ...But it's not "fast-absorbing" like whey.

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    Whey is found in cottage cheese aka curds and whey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Whey is found in cottage cheese aka curds and whey.
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    Casein and whey are milk proteins. There aren't other sources because they are derived from milk. Drink milk and you'll be fine. Don't make this harder than it has to be. If you don't want to drink whey or casein, eat red meat, chicken, eggs, fish, nuts, and milk. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
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    Jesus, people. Give him the blunt answer.

    Milk has two proteins as far as you need to be concerned: Whey and Casein.

    That's it.

    Milk (cow) protein is about 80% casein/20% whey.

    When they make cheese, they are looking for the casein as it clumps. Whey is the thin, watery stuff left over. They used to throw it away, now there's a market for it.

    So:

    Casein: Milk, cheese, yogurt, etc.

    Whey: Milk, whey protein products, and anything that whey's been added to in small amounts (check the ingredients if you care).


    Cow muscle protein is beef. Chicken muscle protein is chicken. The little slow kid next door? His muscle protein is human, and it's probably edible even if he has bad genes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris View Post
    Jesus, people. Give him the blunt answer.

    Milk has two proteins as far as you need to be concerned: Whey and Casein.

    That's it.

    Milk (cow) protein is about 80% casein/20% whey.

    When they make cheese, they are looking for the casein as it clumps. Whey is the thin, watery stuff left over. They used to throw it away, now there's a market for it.

    So:

    Casein: Milk, cheese, yogurt, etc.

    Whey: Milk, whey protein products, and anything that whey's been added to in small amounts (check the ingredients if you care).


    Cow muscle protein is beef. Chicken muscle protein is chicken. The little slow kid next door? His muscle protein is human, and it's probably edible even if he has bad genes.
    Eat the fat kid next door!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    And that's why Little Miss Muffet was buff as all hell.
    HAHA you beat me to it.

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