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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    To pick, or not to pick

    I have played bass on and off the last 6 years or so, and always fingerpicked. Trying to play with a pick is like learning how to play all over again, except the other hand knows what it's doing.
    You metalheads, I know what your answer will be, and until I get my ass into gear again, and am able to fingerpick the bass line to Crazy Train during the solo, you are the only badasses I actually cannot play along with yet.

    My question is, should I go ahead and learn how to use a pick, or finger pick up where I left off?
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    Finger pick.

    Work on to slap bass and tapping and stuff like that.

    Bass is an instrument where all the different playing styles can be done very well without a pick. Most bassists worth talking about will tell you to stick with your fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar90 View Post
    Most bassists worth talking about will tell you to stick with your fingers.
    Not necessarily so. Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Paul McCartney, Justin Chancellor, Carol Kaye, Roger Waters, John Myung (I believe, anyway), David Ellefson, John Paul Jones, and many others are VERY influential bass players that play predominantly pickstyle.

    Stu Hamm, Oteil Burbridge, John Entwistle, and even Flea occasionally pick.

    I prefer playing fingerstyle, though 2 of my 4 biggest direct influences are pick players. It's just another technique to add to the arsenal and has far more practical use than learning to either tap or slap.

    Pickstyle has several advantages over fingerstyle and vice versa. It just depends if you want to add something else to your toolbox. If fingerstyle gets you the sound you want and you're comfortable with it, do it. If you want to be able to whip out an even wider tonal variety on a whim, practice both.
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    For the record (because I've nothing better to do), Entwistle is dead, so he officially isn't playing either style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd View Post
    For the record (because I've nothing better to do), Entwistle is dead, so he officially isn't playing either style.
    Entwistle will never die. Take that back!
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    Roger Waters
    I wouldn't call Waters an influential bass player. He just happened to play bass in Pink Floyd, and he wasn't outstanding or anything. Gilmour played bass in a lot of their songs in the studio. He was a good lyricist, artist, composer, etc, but not a noteworthy bass player.

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    Alright, for the sake of my musical advancement and the further happiness of my girl, I will continue to fingerpick. Thanks for your input, guys.
    "I would have had sex with a pornstar, slapped a bitch and stole someone's dog." - deeder
    "Ever heard the term "screwing like rabbits? There's a reason it came about, and it has nothing to do with putting up drywall." - mrelwooddowd
    "If you are looking for a workout that will make you sore, you need to reassess your priorities, and perhaps look for an S&M club in your area." - Paul Stagg
    "I do encourage that people laugh at the fact I've put ass creme on my face." - Rock Steady
    "I look like a condom full of walnuts." - Risk10k
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    Quote Originally Posted by CleverName View Post
    I wouldn't call Waters an influential bass player. He just happened to play bass in Pink Floyd, and he wasn't outstanding or anything. Gilmour played bass in a lot of their songs in the studio. He was a good lyricist, artist, composer, etc, but not a noteworthy bass player.
    You're seriously going to contradict something that unimportant?

    Wow.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    You're seriously going to contradict something that unimportant?
    Yep!

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    Geezer Butler is the only REALLY GOOD bassist I can think of that plays with a pick all of the time.
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    nikki sixx of motley crue uses a pick. Not fantastic but one of the better bass players ive heard. I would try and work on both equally though.

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    i was a bass player. as someone else said with the sounds you can make with your fingers, use em! I think picks are very twangy on a bass also, but at some point I played with 3mm stubby's. depeds on what your doing, but get your fingers back (I actually played with a slide a lot too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CleverName View Post
    Yep!
    Man, thanks. I was feeling bad but you've shown me that there's at least one person with more time to kill than me.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar90 View Post
    Geezer Butler is the only REALLY GOOD bassist I can think of that plays with a pick all of the time.
    See the list I posted above. There are a few more there.

    Quote Originally Posted by slashkills View Post
    nikki sixx of motley crue uses a pick. Not fantastic but one of the better bass players ive heard. I would try and work on both equally though.
    Ok...I know I just bitched at someone for being contradictory, but I feel like being a hypocrite. Are you ****ing kidding me? I'm really wondering what your basis of comparison is.

    Unless, of course, you're one of those guitards that believes that bass players should pound root 8th notes and nothing else. Playing with those guys is fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by ct67_72 View Post
    i was a bass player. as someone else said with the sounds you can make with your fingers, use em! I think picks are very twangy on a bass also, but at some point I played with 3mm stubby's. depeds on what your doing, but get your fingers back (I actually played with a slide a lot too)
    That can be removed with proper EQ. You'll have more hi-mid attack with a pick and so will have to compensate. Even after the EQ is fixed, there will still be a sharper attack.

    An interesting tonal variation is using a hard felt pick. I have a cymbal brass pick around here somewhere that's freaky. I played with that through 2 stages of fuzz with some delay and it was just unholy.
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    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    When I looked at the title I thought it was going to have something to do with noses and fingers (well I was half right anyway).

    But to answer the OP's question, I'd go with a pick.
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    Lars Frederikson from Rancid actually happens to be my cousin, so a few years back I got that opportunity to meet Matt Freeman (Rancid's bassist). This guy plays with a pick and is absolutely nuts. Although he can still fingerpick/slap he definitely shreds with a pick. I don't judge a bassist on how they play, I just listen to what it sounds like coming out of the speaker and make a determination from there. Just because you can't slap like Wooten or Claypool doesn't mean you aren't a great bassist.

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