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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    2 cheat meals a week?

    Is it ok to cheat twice a week? Lately I've been cheating on Friday night with my buddies, and Saturday night with my girlfriend. Each of these meals are just random restaurant meals with a house salad and water. Some are worse then others, but none of them I would consider "clean". Usually a chicken or a steak dish...But not a total binge, just a meal out.

    Can I stay lean/cut using two back to back cheat meals over the weekend? Friday is a training day, and a Saturday is an off day. I use to only cheat Friday night, but I started to cheat Saturday as well. Friday is a higher carb day, and Saturday is a lower carb day usually. I haven't noticed any differences in my BF levels, but it's only been 2 weeks I've done it for. I'm wondering if I can keep doing this, and stay fine.

    Does anyone else have two cheat meals a week, and are you staying lean? I'm not really bulking right now, more so a slow cut. At about 8% bf right now at 190lbs, and would like to atleast maintain/cut a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    Is it ok to cheat twice a week? Lately I've been cheating on Friday night with my buddies, and Saturday night with my girlfriend. Each of these meals are just random restaurant meals with a house salad and water. Some are worse then others, but none of them I would consider "clean". Usually a chicken or a steak dish...But not a total binge, just a meal out.

    Can I stay lean/cut using two back to back cheat meals over the weekend? Friday is a training day, and a Saturday is an off day. I use to only cheat Friday night, but I started to cheat Saturday as well. Friday is a higher carb day, and Saturday is a lower carb day usually. I haven't noticed any differences in my BF levels, but it's only been 2 weeks I've done it for. I'm wondering if I can keep doing this, and stay fine.

    Does anyone else have two cheat meals a week, and are you staying lean? I'm not really bulking right now, more so a slow cut. At about 8% bf right now at 190lbs, and would like to atleast maintain/cut a little more.
    just have an entire cheat DAY, I make it sunday since football is sunday.....

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    It seems fine to me. Chicken and steak are by no means "dirty" in my book.

    If you really don't want to cheat, why not just eat less throughout the day before these meals? Do you count calories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious View Post
    It seems fine to me. Chicken and steak are by no means "dirty" in my book.

    If you really don't want to cheat, why not just eat less throughout the day before these meals? Do you count calories?
    I dont actually count calories, just carbs...but my weekly diet is perfectly clean and EXACTLY the same every day. I usually do about 3300 on workout days, and 2700 on off days...With carbs making up the difference in calories on those days. I know chicken/steak aren't dirty, but at a restaurant they aren't prepared clean and I usually have them with bad fats, and lots of junky carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnoldsclone View Post
    just have an entire cheat DAY, I make it sunday since football is sunday.....
    The cheat day doesn't negatively effect you? I figured 2 seperate isolated cheats, we're better then a full day binge...Most of my cheats are more social then anything, as I could probably go a few months without cheating...Seems weird, but that's just the way I am.

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    What the hell are you eating that chicken and steak aren't considered clean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing View Post
    What the hell are you eating that chicken and steak aren't considered clean?
    I'm just saying those are the meats, usually with 2 horrible sides made with butter, etc. A chicken breast or steak you eat out is no where near clean, lots of oil/butter/etc. Usually with some bad sides...

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    I think you'll still live with 2 cheat meals a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brihead301 View Post
    I think you'll still live with 2 cheat meals a week.
    Difference between living, and being shredded.

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    I still think you can get "shredded" with 2 cheat meals a week. You can still get shredded with 10 cheat meals a week. It's much easier then most people make it out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brihead301 View Post
    I still think you can get "shredded" with 2 cheat meals a week. You can still get shredded with 10 cheat meals a week. It's much easier then most people make it out to be.
    For the next month, I'm going to cheat 2 meals a week. Both weekend nights to see what happens.

    What do you mean by its easier then people think? I don't think I could have 1 bad meal out every day (7 cheat meals) and look the way I do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    For the next month, I'm going to cheat 2 meals a week. Both weekend nights to see what happens.

    What do you mean by its easier then people think? I don't think I could have 1 bad meal out every day (7 cheat meals) and look the way I do now.


    I know several guys that eat cookies, brownies or pancakes before they train and still stay at a low level of body fat. It's not that difficult to reach a lower level of bf even while eating "unclean" foods. Will you be stage ready, no, but we're not really talking about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    For the next month, I'm going to cheat 2 meals a week. Both weekend nights to see what happens.

    What do you mean by its easier then people think? I don't think I could have 1 bad meal out every day (7 cheat meals) and look the way I do now.
    If you say so. I'd be all fat and out of shape if I didn't lift my ass off. That goes to show you what type of body type I have - one that puts fat on easily (endo???). I eat like 4000 calories a day now in a bulk, and I have maybe 14% bodyfat. I drink my ass off on the weekends. I eat pizza and fried foods when I feel like it. If I'm in the mood for something sweet, I have a candy bar. I don't go nuts on the junk food, but I don't avoid it purposely because I think it's going to mess my body up. I'm eating on a bulk right now, and I only have 14% bodyfat, around 200 lbs. If I were to drop my calories to maybe 2500 or 3000, and still eat the same way I do now, just smaller main meals, I think it would be safe to say that I'd be pretty shredded.

    That's what I mean by it being easier then people think. Just work hard in the gym. Try to eat right, and don't worry about eating junk sometimes.

    I dunno, that's just me though. Do what you gotta do to get shredded. I just don't think it's that hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brihead301 View Post
    Do what you gotta do to get shredded. I just don't think it's that hard.
    Shredded is a pretty intense word to be throwing around....

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    Yes, two cheat meals a week is fine. My fiancee did that very successfully, on the same days. She would eat extremely clean during the week, and then we would have fast food one friday and saturday nights. I think she lost 30-40lbs in about a 6 month period, and she has hypothyroidism. If you want to be very precise, try to figure out your caloric intake requirement for maintenance, and then count how much you take in a week, counting the 2 cheat meals. If you are still enough under maintenance at the end of every week, then no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle View Post
    Shredded is a pretty intense word to be throwing around....
    Ya I guess you got a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brihead301 View Post
    Ya I guess you got a point.

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    I think that cheating will only give bad result. If you want to be lean and cut, just avoid cheating and must have self-control in your diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trim_jim View Post
    I think that cheating will only give bad result. If you want to be lean and cut, just avoid cheating and must have self-control in your diet.
    I don't agree. If you can manage without cheat meals then by all means, but if cheat meals help keep you clean the rest of the week then have a couple of cheat meals. I also feel that the whole clean eating thing shouldn't get in the way of a couple of nights out a week with your friends.
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    What's your definition of a cheat meal? A thousand calorie nutrient void dinner? A cheat meal to me is two Oreo's. A cheat meal could also be a two pound steak loaded with steak sauce and potatoes with butter like I have once a month or so. It just depends what you consider a "cheat" meal. However, if you're going to be eating clean, my opinion is that you should have a cheat meal once every 10-14 days and make it under 500 calories. That's just my preference. It works for me. It satisfies a very small sweet-tooth that I have and it leaves me not feeling guilty.
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    All my cheat meals are always actual dinner meals...For example Chicken, Steak, Fish...Just usually sloppy. For example:

    N.Y. Strip Steak - A 10 oz. U.S.D.A. choice cut of beef served on garlic toast and your choice of two sides. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Two sides:

    Black Beans & Rice or Bobs Baked Beans
    Veggies

    Or something like

    Half Pound Black Angus Burger - Cooked to order! Served with lettuce, tomato, pickle and your choice of side

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    Potato Salad

    I mean I know black beans/rice/veggies sound healthy, but they are definitely all greased up. All my cheats always have a meat source though, I never really cheat on pizza/ice cream/cookies...I just don't really crave it, and I feel bad not having protein ahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    . All my cheats always have a meat source though, I never really cheat on pizza/ice cream/cookies...I just don't really crave it, and I feel bad not having protein ahha
    Pizza has alot of protein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle View Post
    Pizza has alot of protein.
    LOL, Does it really? What just from the cheese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post
    What's your definition of a cheat meal? A thousand calorie nutrient void dinner? A cheat meal to me is two Oreo's. A cheat meal could also be a two pound steak loaded with steak sauce and potatoes with butter like I have once a month or so. It just depends what you consider a "cheat" meal. However, if you're going to be eating clean, my opinion is that you should have a cheat meal once every 10-14 days and make it under 500 calories. That's just my preference. It works for me. It satisfies a very small sweet-tooth that I have and it leaves me not feeling guilty.

    Not everyone gets a kick out of depriving themselves.

    My ex was at his most ripped when he ate a 8oz brownie every day...2 x a week is fine for a cheat meal is fine - especially if it's not a binge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    LOL, Does it really? What just from the cheese?
    Yep.

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