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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Omg.

    i need to need to need to go up on bench, and dead lift.

    I dont understand why i cant push up my dead lift numbers!! : (

    everytime i do it, i feel like my groin muscles or w.e you wanna call it, is about to like burst into a billion pieces. I really dont know what im doing wrong. but it hurts, sooooo much.

    Plz help me out asap.

    meet is on thursday.

    i want to at least go up 30pds or more for my next meet. ( which is in like 3 or 4 weeks. )

    Or, i could do the smart thing and get down to the 97 weight class... but idk if i can really do that.
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    Are you sure your form is correct? It could help you get that extra 30lbs and get rid of the aches and pains.
    I went to Rhodestown and all I got was this high cholesterol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    Are you sure your form is correct? It could help you get that extra 30lbs and get rid of the aches and pains.
    well, coaches havent said that i was doing nething wrong. but im sure i am.
    I just dont know what! : (
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    Just a few to cinsider that may have been overlooked

    Are you drinking enough water?

    Are you resting enough?

    Are you stretching?

    When is the last break you had?

    Are you meeting your nutritional needs?
    Sarvamangalam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    Just a few to cinsider that may have been overlooked

    Are you drinking enough water? Um, i would think so...

    Are you resting enough? yes im pretty sure i am.

    Are you stretching? eeh, not really.

    When is the last break you had? the weekend??

    Are you meeting your nutritional needs? Nooo wayy...
    : ( : ( : (
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    I am switching my dead to just twice a week now and it has made my gains enormous. I used to do it weekly with maybe 5-10 pounds (if lucky) a month. Now, at twice a month, I am hitting 10 easily.

    I take 3-4 minute rests between sets.

    Chalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilsterT View Post
    I am switching my dead to just twice a week now and it has made my gains enormous. I used to do it weekly with maybe 5-10 pounds (if lucky) a month. Now, at twice a month, I am hitting 10 easily.

    I take 3-4 minute rests between sets.

    Chalk?
    oh wow.

    We only use chalk at meets : /
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinaz View Post
    Omg.

    i need to need to need to go up on bench, and dead lift.

    I dont understand why i cant push up my dead lift numbers!! : (

    everytime i do it, i feel like my groin muscles or w.e you wanna call it, is about to like burst into a billion pieces. I really dont know what im doing wrong. but it hurts, sooooo much.

    Plz help me out asap.

    meet is on thursday.
    ??? - You do realize you're not going to get any stronger before Thursday and you should just rest until then, right?...

    Or, i could do the smart thing and get down to the 97 weight class... but idk if i can really do that.
    Sorry for being crude, but I could lose three pounds on the john right now...
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    do you deadlift conventional or sumo? (narrow or wide stance?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    ??? - You do realize you're not going to get any stronger before Thursday and you should just rest until then, right?...

    Sorry for being crude, but I could lose three pounds on the john right now...
    how? coach wont let us.

    i have my track and powerlifting coach, and they dont let us rest pretty much at all. we just dont lift the day before the meet.
    : /

    oh yeah, and im at 104lbs right now,
    i weighed in at 100 at the meet.
    soo, it will be kinda hard to get down to 97.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhlfan View Post
    do you deadlift conventional or sumo? (narrow or wide stance?)
    Sumo.
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    Originally Posted by Chinaz

    "

    Are you drinking enough water? Um, i would think so...

    Are you resting enough? yes im pretty sure i am.

    Are you stretching? eeh, not really.

    When is the last break you had? the weekend??

    Are you meeting your nutritional needs? Nooo wayy..."


    well you need to fix these for a start, meet or not. you answered your own questions. and if you want us to troubleshoot your problem we need to narrow down the problems. fix these and get back to us.
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    Foam rolling. Did wonders for the muscles and tendons that were getting soar in my legs. Hurts at first but its worth it.
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    You need to rest. At your age, you shouldn't have any aches and pains. Your coaches are stupid! Rest, or you'll get injured. You're gaining weight because you're retaining water in your joints from overwork. REST! You're gonna get hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinaz View Post
    how? coach wont let us.

    i have my track and powerlifting coach, and they dont let us rest pretty much at all. we just dont lift the day before the meet.
    : /
    Look, I'm just trying to give you some decent advice - what you do with it is up to you... As far as your coaches go, unless they are complete morons, if you speak with them in a mature manner and tell them that you think you are overtrained, too sore, etc. and that you really want to succeed and are not trying to "get out of workouts" (because you are lazy), they should be understanding.

    oh yeah, and im at 104lbs right now,
    i weighed in at 100 at the meet.
    soo, it will be kinda hard to get down to 97.
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    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    defiantly stretch before hand and even daily, should help your groin muscle situation.
    and to me it sounds like the coaches are overtraining you.
    you shouldnt be working a muscle group more then twice a week, they need to rest so they recover and grow.

    as for the three pounds you need to loose, try water manipulation, drink gallons a day a week before, then 24 hours before weigh-in cut your water, then right after weigh in start to rehydrate with water, then Gatorade, then carb up with carby foods.

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    i agree with the others, you are overtraining, regardless of what your coach says. its only your second meet, dont worry about your weight...didn't you just lift in a meet like 2 weeks ago?
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    You should be doing nothing but resting for the 7-10 days before your meet - especially if you are, in fact, overtrained.
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    rest and dont be lazy. Drop to 97 pounds.

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