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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Thanks K. I'll give under/over a shot on deads this Friday or Saturday. I'd be thrilled to toss on another 25 lbs. I wanted to keep the double overhand grip for as long as possible so as to improve grip strength, but I don't want to sacrifice gains in favor of grip strength.

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    nice to see you're sticking with it...keep it up buddy

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    I would def. suggest the over/under, but make sure and use lightweight and test it out so you get comfortable with it before you go for the big weights. I'm sure you knew that though.
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    Good sessions.

    If you are worried about grip being a problem if you start doing a mixed grip, just do some farmers walks after your DLs. They will make sure that your grip doesn't lag.

    Even with a mixed grip, I still feel it in my forearms.

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    jed, I always start off with warmups, so I'll just maybe add a few extra low weight sets to make sure I get the feel down. I'm excited to see if the weight goes up even just 10-15 lbs.

    whiteman, thanks, I may give farmers walks a shot. I think the DBs at my gym go up to 150, which should be more than enough for me at this point.

    Should I also switch my left and right hands occasionally? I read some journal, maybe on here, where a guy's right trap was getting bigger than his left so he had to switch his grip.

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    Heh, I haven't ever switched my hands unless it was way back when I was trying to figure out what form was better... I don't think having a hand one way or another will affect which side of the traps are getting bigger, it's hard enough to try and make one side bigger than the others.
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    Heh, alright. I'm probably just overthinking it like a noob


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    Day 14

    5 minutes rowing for warmup (never doing this again, since starting this my last two workouts have been crap)

    Squat:

    bar x 8 x 1
    95 x 5 x 1
    135 x 5 x 1
    185 x 5 x 1
    245 x 5 x 1
    250 x 5 x 2

    These hurt. Not like they were sore, they just hurt. I'm thinking of taking a week off from squatting starting next week. I got a sharp pain somewhere in my pelvic region after my last set, and some muscle on my upper thigh/waist area doesn't seem to want to stretch out, so it hurts too. 250 didn't feel any heavier than 245, so I figured, what the hell.

    Overhead Press:

    bar x 10 x 1
    65 x 5 x 1
    95 x 5 x 1
    95 x 3 x 1
    90 x 5 x 1
    90 x 2 x1

    Idiot. I somehow added 50 and 45 and got 90 on my 3rd set. Nice grade school math, huh? I'll try 90 again next week.

    Bent-over row:

    bar x 8 x 1
    65 x 5 x 1
    95 x 5 x 1
    135 x 5 x 1
    155 x 5 x 3

    155 was maybe a bit much, my form was not as good as last time.

    I didn't feel that bad after this workout, but going back over it now, it kind of sucked.

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    That looks like a solid day.

    I wouldn't worry too much about uneven traps. I've been DLing a while, and never noticed uneven traps. Even if someone were to develop unevenness, it would only be noticeable to the lifter, and even then, only when they were flexing.

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    nice workout. good heavy squats man. are you OH presses with leg or not?
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    Sounds like you might have pushed it a little too hard on the Squats. Good call resting up. No sense in screwing up your hips over things. Still, it looks like it was a pretty intense squat day. Nice moves on the rowing. Good to see that in here. Just work on full ROM with that puppy and a good squeeze with your shoulder blades at the top of the pull. 155 will be a piece of cake in no time at all.
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    Thanks guys. Kiaran, yeah, I think I just pushed a bit too hard on squats. I actually feel pretty good today, so instead of not doing squats I'm going to back down on weight some and make sure my form is spot on.

    Jed, no leg movement on my OH presses. If I could drive with my legs a bit I'm sure I could do more weight, but I'm not going for a push press, just a shoulder press. I was ignorantly calling it a "military press" before I found out your feet are supposed to be together on military.

    whitey, yeah, I'm not gonna worry about uneven traps, I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder anyway.

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    Day 15

    Squat:

    bar x 10 x 1
    95 x 5 x 1
    135 x 5 x 1
    225 x 5 x 1
    245 x 5 x 1
    250 x 5 x 2

    These felt better, I did 2 sets of 5 at 250 lbs. this time instead of 1. Form was better.

    Bench Press:

    bar x 10 x 1
    65 x 5 x 1
    85 x 5 x 1
    115 x 5 x 1
    160 x 3 x 1
    155 x 4 x 2

    Gah, I gotta stop doing this. I put 160 on the bar thinking it was 150, then got discouraged when I couldn't do a full set of "150", and then couldn't even get in 2 full sets of "145" (which was actually 155). Stupid, stupid, stupid. Though I felt better when I realized I wasn't actually losing strength, I just suck at math.

    Deadlift (now with over/under grip):

    95 x 5 x 1
    135 x 5 x 1
    220 x 5 x 1
    260 x 5 x 1 - feeling pretty good
    275 x 5 x 1 - feeling really good!
    315 x 3 + 2 x 1 - HELL YES MASSIVE PR!!!

    I did 1 rep thinking I'd do a 1RM PR, felt good, so I did two more reps, stopped about 20 seconds, went back and pulled two more. Form was good, no Diesel Weasel straining or anything stupid like that. My lower back feels on fire, but it's good.

    Now I need to think of a new deadlift goal for 2008.
    Last edited by killxswitch; 02-08-2008 at 08:12 PM.

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    woot grats on the DL PR dude already smashed ur 2008 goal!!
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    Thanks jed, yeah, I guess the grip was really holding me back.

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    lol, told ya over-under is huge. Now, your next stop will be 365. Nice work, man. 315 for reps is huge. You will have 405 before summer is out this year.
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    You were right K. If I can hit 405 by August/September I will be a happy man.

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    hey, do you game? from 'geek' to freak...
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    Carrying on real nicely dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jed View Post
    hey, do you game? from 'geek' to freak...
    I've been playing Call of Duty 4 online on the PC lately. I don't have an xbox 360 or ps3, just PC games.

    Thanks Coke, I'm trying.
    Last edited by killxswitch; 02-09-2008 at 09:41 PM.

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    kickbutt dude im all-pc also do you play any of blizzards games? i got cod4, crysis, diablo 2 LoD, and madden 08 installed i just reformatted. im hooked on madden at the moment.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
    Philippians 4:13 - "I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me."
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    I sold my copy of diablo 2 LoD, and really I played the crap out of it already. About the only games I play anymore are cod4 and counterstrike source. I would like to get Team Fortress 2 sometime, but cod4 is keeping my attention. We should play on the same server sometime. Do you use xfire? I'm killxswitch on there also.

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    heh yeah we've had to copy our d2 disc about 3 times cuz we used it so much. ah yeah CS:S i played religiously i will install that sometime, steam is just such a hassle sometimes. ill tell you once i get my cod4 mp running, its getting some errors at the moment.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
    Philippians 4:13 - "I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me."
    "I'm really impressed with your dedication. I will call it your jedication." - killxswitch
    J O U R N A L !
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    Cool, just let me know sometime. I don't get to play as much as I used to in HS and college now that I'm married and working full-time, but I still sneak on every now and then.

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    Day 15.5

    Went with my wife to the gym to spot for her, as she had one of her migraines on Friday and couldn't go with me then.

    Did 30 min of cardio on an elliptical. Post run, I weighed 236 lbs naked. I've weighed around 240-243 the last few days, so I think that's the low end of my normal fluctuation. I don't think I've gained much fat, if any at all. That would put my increase in lean muscle at around 6-8ish lbs. so far (assuming I'm correct that I haven't gained much fat).

    edit: I dunno, that seems like an awful lot. Maybe I'm overestimating. It doesn't really matter, as long as I keep getting stronger and don't turn into a blimp I'm doing what I need to.
    Last edited by killxswitch; 02-10-2008 at 08:54 PM.

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