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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
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    cutting routine? please help / suggest!

    Hey all,

    First of all I would like to thank Maki Riddington as well as many other contributors to this board for all the advice I have been given over the last nine or so months while parousing this board. I used the WBB Routine #1 for about 6 m onths, and then switched over to the WBB Routine #2 with excellent results (in regards to muscle hypertrophy).

    Now I am interested in doing some cutting of bodyfat.

    In order to start cutting (with the addition of some cardio-bike-riding excersise), should I just lower the weight and up the reps of the workout I already do (WBB Routine #2), or can someone recomment a different routine? Is there a formula for the amount of reps / %(1RM MAX) and weight I should be doing to achieve maximum fat burn?

    Also, should I start taking any fat-cutting supplements? I have stayed away from all supplements thus far (with the exception of a protein powder shake-sorta-thing). And, in regards to that (the protein intake), should I stop eating as much protein as I do (1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight)?

    Thanks for your help thus far, WBB. Hope you can help me out.

    Erin
    Last edited by FenianIrish; 03-11-2002 at 09:33 AM.

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    Re: cutting routine? please help / suggest!

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by FenianIrish
    [B]Hey all,

    First of all I would like to thank Maki Riddington as well as many other contributors to this board for all the advice I have been given over the last nine or so months while parousing this board. I used the WBB Routine #1 for about 6 m onths, and then switched over to the WBB Routine #2 with excellent results (in regards to muscle hypertrophy).

    *** Cool bro. I haven't been contributing much here (training forum) for some time so that's a really, really nice compliment!!

    Now I am interested in doing some cutting of bodyfat.

    In order to start cutting (with the addition of some cardio-bike-riding excersise), should I just lower the weight and up the reps of the workout I already do (WBB Routine #2), or can someone recomment a different routine? Is there a formula for the amount of reps / %(1RM MAX) and weight I should be doing to achieve maximum fat burn?

    *** The majority here will probally disagree with my opinion on this but I don't agree that you should continue to lift as intensly as you have been before dieting. If you are cutting calories and continuing an intense lifting regimen your gym performance will slowly go downhill.
    The routine should be tailored towards your dietary intake.
    What that is depends on how many calories you are eating so I can't give you any guidleines. Feel free to email me or post your current nutritional intake that you will be following during your "cutting phase".



    Also, should I start taking any fat-cutting supplements? I have stayed away from all supplements thus far (with the exception of a protein powder shake-sorta-thing). And, in regards to that (the protein intake), should I stop eating as much protein as I do (1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight)?

    *** Again, it is only my opinion that you work on your nutrtion intake first and learn how manipulate the ratios. Once your results start to slow down then I would add in some cardio. When you see your results slow down again then you may either lower your calories or add some more cardio in. Finally when all paths are exhausted then add in your fatburners.
    Protein intake should go up while trying to lose bodyfat. How much depends on your current ratios.

    I hope that everyone here helps you achieve your goals!!!
    Last edited by Maki Riddington; 03-11-2002 at 09:54 AM.
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    As cals go down, performance usually will follow - I wouldn't argue with maki there.

    But i don't think you need to change your routine design. Keep using what gets you big, keep trying to progress. No need to increase reps.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Right, that I agree with. Don't fall into the notion that higher reps will bring about a more efficient fat burning effect.
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    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
    The Art of Judo

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    I would suggest you look at your diet first.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Definitely do it with diet. I weight train no differently now, cutting at 2600 - 2700 calories than I did bulking at 4500 calories each day. I'm losing lots of fat and staying strong, even progressing in my lifts each week slowly and steadily. I have found much success by eating a lot of protein and much fewer carbs than normal. Many will say that I eat too much protein, but it's working wonders for me right now. I eat 300-325g of protein every day and 125-175g of carbs each day. I weight train 4 days a week and do minimal cardio.
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    how do u get 325g of protein a day?? thats phenomenal! what are u using?
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