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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Benching - Do you count the bar?

    Hello,

    Just wondering, when benching, do you add on the weight of the bar? I started a journal last week and have been posting the weight I'm lifting indluding the bar, is that right?

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    I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killxswitch View Post
    I do.
    I would of thought so, because it's weight you're lifting. Just someone said to me that you don't count the car.

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    yeah of course

    thats why 2 pps = 225 and 3 pps = 315

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven001 View Post
    I would of thought so, because it's weight you're lifting. Just someone said to me that you don't count the car.
    You're benching a car!?


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    You have to add the bar, it makes you look stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseymajor View Post
    You have to add the bar, it makes you look stronger.
    That and uhh... it weighs 45lbs...
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    Might as well ask this question here.

    If my gluteus maximus leaves the bench, does that still count as a legal lift for a bench press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACCOLADE View Post
    Might as well ask this question here.

    If my gluteus maximus leaves the bench, does that still count as a legal lift for a bench press?
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...22&btnG=Search

    III. FACTORS THAT CONSTITUTE A LEGAL BENCH PRESS

    A. Both feet must be flat on the floor surface and be on the same spot throughout the lift.

    B. The buttocks and back must not leave the bench (flat on bench).

    C. The arms must be straight at the starting lift, lowered down to touch the pectorals (chests) and pressed upward smoothly until the elbows are locked-out at the final position. Even arm extension is required.

    D. Any bounce-off from the chest position constitutes an illegal press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACCOLADE View Post
    Might as well ask this question here.

    If my gluteus maximus leaves the bench, does that still count as a legal lift for a bench press?
    No....... <- those extra periods were to fufill the minimum message length..............<- Those extra periods were just for the hell of it.
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    Thanks, I found a similar link when I searched but it was for a school competition. Wasn't sure if there was a commonly accepted standard for a "legal" press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACCOLADE View Post
    Thanks, I found a similar link when I searched but it was for a school competition. Wasn't sure if there was a commonly accepted standard for a "legal" press.

    Different feds have different rules. But I'm pretty sure the bum on the bench is ALWAYS required.
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    well sure if you're competing you need to find the rules (they differ I suppose). But, if you're lifting weights to get stronger as the sole purpose, then I say arch that back HARD and let your butt go up. I can bench a good bit more if I do this and the heavier weights functions to stimulate better growth.

    Just my thoughts...

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    I usually add the weight of 2 bars when I post workouts in my journal. Don't tell anybody.

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    I don't. I use non olympic weights, I have a 7ft. bar that weighs 32 lbs and a 6 foot bar that weighs 12lbs....it doesn't make sense so I don't count it.
    The only numbers I care about is inches of my bracheal, thoracic and femoral regions.

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    Well then technically you should count your bodyweight in squats, since you're lifting that too.

    Right?

    RIGHT???!!

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